Thursday, 17 May 2012

Book your room at Dignitas…football is doomed forever

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by CARL ELDRIDGE Stoke: never has there been a bigger cack hole. Never has a side produced such an affront to football. Never has one set of supporters been so blind to what they watch week in, week out. I sat on the bus back to the train station with the misguided fools yesterday and honestly pitied them.
 
Yes, they were in the next round of the FA Cup and we were out on our arse and it should have been me looking for some comfort as another chance of a major honour slipped by and the silverware year-ometre edged nearer to six without a prize. But it was they who need the sympathy. This rain-sodden, hapless mass babbled excitedly about the next round and even Wembley. Who are they kidding? If a moronic bunch of no-marks such as these ever muscle their way to lifting the great old cup I shall be on a Swiss-bound plane to Dignitas.
 
Tony Pulis is a stalwart type who likes to defend his abominable approach to the Beautiful Game by trotting out his ‘we are playing to our strengths’ line. Fair enough, many would say. Not me. At some point Pulis and his ilk need to at least try to play the game, surely? Otherwise, what is the point? The day we stop striving to improve as individuals and collectively is a bleak day indeed. But it is a day that comes around all to often at the soulless, half-empty monstrosity that is the Britannia Stadium. God, that was depressing yesterday — except for Harry’s Bar in the town centre with Strongbow at £1.50 a pint!
 
Many would argue that we were the architects of our own downfall because of side AW picked, but if we blame his selection, we blame him and if we blame him we lose sight of the his overall brilliance. Lose faith in AW and we might as well employ Pulis and his mindless musclemen. We must keep faith in AW — after all in AW we trust, right?
 
Anyway, enough of my bleating and we must turn our attention to this morning’s papers. The Daily Mail finds AW talking about the busy fixture list. Wenger admitted: ‘Physically, Stoke were stronger. We were always exposed to a fight and some players were a bit young to cope with it. We didn’t want to go out of the Cup.

‘But if you look at our schedule, it’s simple to see that you cannot always play with the same 11. If you change it and you don’t win, it’s your fault.Stoke were sharp, physical and always dangerous in the air. We weakened as the game went on and they got stronger and stronger in the one-against-ones. It was a game that was more physical than technical.’

More from AW in the Mirror: “It is important to focus on the Premier League because we are in an interesting position and we have some very important games coming up.

“We picked a team to try to win but we had 10 injuries so it was always going to be difficult. It is too simplistic to say the Cup comes second because we wanted to win the game and didn’t want to go out….but if you look at our schedule it is obvious we know we can not play the same team every game.

“I can only stand up now and hold my hands up and say that is the team I picked and we lost the game.

“Sol Campbell did very well and was surprisingly fit for a guy who hasn’t played for so long. he tired at the end but that is natural, and he did very well,” he said.

“Today it was overall an encouraging performance from Sol, certainly what we have seen today is that he is motivated. He works very hard in training and for me he has been rewarded for the commitment he puts in in training.”

And in the Sun: “I’ve got no regrets about the selection. I didn’t have much choice as – apart from Gallas – Sagna, Vermaelen and Clichy could not play. They will be back for Aston Villa in midweek and might have missed that if they’d played against Stoke – apart from Gallas. If you look at our schedule, you can’t always play the same eleven.”

That’s do you for today, folks, and if anyone wants my ticket for the league game up there in a few weeks apply within.

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Eldo71

Arsenal fan for 40 years. Schoolboys, North Bank, Clock End then East Upper. Then Emirates. AFC dream team: Wilson, Dixon, Sansom, Adams, Pates, Brady, Williams, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Wright. Subs: Seaman, Eldridge, Wilshere, RVP, Ball. Manager: Arsene Chapman.

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  • Gunnerboy

    Stoke’s tactics is really anti-football as much as they like to delude themselves they are playing to thier “strength” they are just spoiling the beautiful game of football

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  • Remi

    Didnt mind the result to be honest i wasn’t to sure we were going to win with the amount of players we had to rest. Can we please sign a decent keeper Almunia and Fabianski are not close to the talent we have had down the years in that position.

    Oh almost forgot well done to JET who was a bright spark out of the young players

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  • Tim/Guildford

    They wanted it more than us, face it.

    We’ve got bigger things coming up so no great surprise but it still hurts being out of the FA Cup.

    Not a lot wrong with the team we started with apart from…the goalkeeper.

    Like our ‘first choice’ (only choice) goalkeeper, Fabianski, is a liability & not good enough by a country mile.

    If Wenger only made one signing between now & next January & that was a world class goalkeeper,we would be going forward.

    And Eldo……..I’ll buy your ticket.

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  • Wiggy

    To many passengers yesterday as well.

    Denilson should never wear an arsenal shirt again, Vela can p*ss off back to Spain and Theo.. well.. Once again nothing offered. Traore was poor, and Fabianski showed us how good almunia is…… :-*

    Cannot really blame Wenger for selection, the side just didnt perform. And stoke did out muscle us.. Back to headlines of “weak arsenal” and “they didnt have the stomach for it”..

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  • Danish Gooner

    What is this crap with a towel,it is fucking cheating,next time they will probably have installed catapults so Rory Delap can propel himself and the ball into the goal.

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  • Eldo

    Tim, you’re right…if we go on to win the title of the CL who will remember a bleak day in the Potteries? BTW, when Whory Delapidated dries the ball, isn’t that wasting time? PS. The stweards were knuts and were trying to reach targets of throwing people out for standing…and as for my ticket, I’m going now! Can get you one if you so wish, though…any yarns from your celeb-shoulder-rubbing missus, mate?

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  • Swedish Gooner

    Why didn’t we just put a man in front of Delap for the throws. You can stand as close as the sideline and that would force Delap to make a foul to get his throws that far and the threat would be gone

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  • brdgunner

    I agree, we are so hypocritical in this country it’s un-real. I’m not going to go over the Gallas incident again, it’s happened, and over. However, we moan at no English talent coming through, we blame the bigger clubs for not producing them, then the eyes, ears, and moths of the public, (the press) congratulate the Stoke method of football.

    How is a youngster going to learn to play football, when, his national press are so vocal in their support of the opposite? When the press bemoan that good football won’t win trophies, and, Stoke are exceptional for their guile, a young up and coming player can’t help but be influenced by that.

    I have to say that Stoke were very good for this win, and I am generalising. I hope we beat Villa this week, as I had a few texts, from what I have come to call ‘newspaper supporters’.

    We should always play our strongest team, we should of gone for this man u are out, and more rubbish to that affect. Had we played our strongest side and lost a CB or CM then the same people would have moaned I’m sure. However, thankfully they don’t run the club. And the guys that do are doing a tremendous job.

    COME ON THE GUNNERS

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  • AGS

    Stoke were always going to be “up for it” knowing they were playing a 2nd/3rd string Arsenal side, so the result was probably on the cards anyway. It will be good experience for the likes of JET, Eastmond & Coq though, but I expected much more from Theo – his poorest game as an Arsenal player IMO.
    In our defence, I thought the pitch was shocking. It looked green enough, but it was hard, and bobbly all over. Any team trying to play football on it would struggle to get any flow going. I think the if the same sides would have played on Emirates pitch then it may well have been a different result.

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  • walter

    Swedish Gooner, the new rules since last year say that you have to take a 2 meter distance from a player who takes the throw-in.
    Danis Gooner, the rules have never don’t mention it to be legal or not (the use of a towel I mean) because nobody ever done it before. They are exploiting a gap between the rule book and the meaning of a game. The only way a ref can react is by giving a yellow card for time wasting (which is an offence and is mentionned in the rule book). It really is up to the ref to make those decisions and the ref was poor. But that is no surprise any more.

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  • walter

    The only thing you could do is to have a player who jumps up and throws him self in the hope to force Delap to throw with another angle.

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  • dave

    vela mexican mate

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  • Eldo

    How about pepper spraying him just before he hurls the ball?

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  • Wiggy

    I know..

    He was on loan in Spain though before he came back to play for us.

    He did ok there, so can go back where he might be of some use to someone..

    Cheers for pointing it out though..

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  • db10

    the ref agreed before the game that it was okay to use the towela s long as both teams were given the opportunity to use it. the ref couldn’t really book delap for time wasting because then he would have to book him for every throw in he took and he had already agreed to let him use the towel.

    the question is why was so little extra time added on? wouldn’t have made a difference in the second half but the first should have been about 4-5 minutes. we were one all and on the attack constantly. you never know we might have got another if we had had a few more minutes.

    this is something i have always wondered. the first half is 45 minutes and the second half is 45 minutes so why is ther never upwards of 2 minutes added on in the first half when there is never less than 3 minutes added after the second half? surely it should be roughly the same?

    and yes the pitch was shocking. maybe teams like stoke and bolton make their pitches this bad because it suits their type of crap football.

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  • Durham Gooner

    The referee was happy for Stoke to use the towel only as long as it was offered to Arsenal as well.
    It’s a horrible, ugly tactic though, just awful.

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  • db10

    well said

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  • Durham Gooner

    @AGS Why do Stoke need to prepare a pitch? They never use it.

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  • Berg10

    db10
    More minutes added on in second half cos of substitutions, 30 seconds each?

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  • Berg10

    I failed to see yesterday how drying the ball with a towell is not wasting time when keepers get booked for time wasting when they appear to delay their run up to the goal kick or place it down more than once for a better position. This is down to the ref and Atkinson was a joke.

    I have no problem with the throw but feel we make it too easy for Decrap who also steals 10 yards with his marathon run up, as said above put a jumping player 2 yards in front of him to spoil his aim, AW should have been more prepared for the throw ins.

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  • db10

    oh yeah, me is stupid

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  • Allan

    I am obviously in a minority regarding the Stoke game. I watched a team with a number of young inexperienced players go behind to a very physical experienced team by a first minute goal.
    They did not panic, they did not flinch they continued to play the way the have been coached and got back into the game. I was just waiting for Stoke to tire in the second half. However, one misplaced pass which deflected out to the right wing and gave Stoke a breakaway goal put new life into Stoke. They then scored with another break away. It was only at this point that I thought Arsenal may lose.
    I am so proud of the team and how they played in the game and I know that concentrating on improving skills to play is the way forward. Stoke may have won on the day but who on earth would swap places with them. To those that really believe that winning trophies is what it is ALL about, then I say ‘go support someone else’. Either that or stop listening to the media who try to hype it all up by concentrating on the winning aspect. The gane is the important thing and at this point in time Arsenal are one of the few clubs that don’t seem to have lost sight of this fact.
    COME ON YOUR REDS !

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  • harper

    Well said, Eldo, well said. To have Stoke in the f—–g PREMIER LEAGUE is an affront to England’s top flight, it’s an embarrassment. Having Bolton in the PL is bad enuf. Geezus, they’re awful. I don’t buy this “playing to our strengthers” crap either. You can play physical, defensive football, be tough to beat, but still but still temper your play with something akin to PLAYING FOOTBALL, ffs! Other teams do it. Blackburn under Hughes did it.

    I can’t blame WEnger for his team selection — and btw, those two last goals came when he’d put on 3 first team players.

    What worries me is that injuries and the ANC have left us relying on the likes of Denilson and Theo, who are very poor right now. Theo refuses to track back and Cesc (instead of barracking Theo) did it for him yesterday at one point.

    And it’s incredible the amount of luck Chelsea have: they’ve owned the FA cup competition in the last few years because of their consistently easy draws with lower league opponents. And then Ivory Coast gets knocked out of the ANC. I bet you Cameroon will beat Egypt today, with our luck.

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  • Berg10

    The 2 goals you mention were scored when Eastmond moved to RB, to be fair to the new midfield they hadn’t got up to the speed of the game, agree entirely on TW14, he was awful in every aspect.

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  • Tim/Guildford

    A bit like putting the boot in, Stoke know that we would start bleating about the towel drying thingy,it only plays into their hands.

    The way to beat them is to not have a indecisive clown in goal with a fear of round objects.

    Walcott was kin useless, Camp Bell has got more chance of going to the World Cup than he has.

    And it’s been posted by someone else already but whats the point in bringing these youngsters through the ranks playing their natural position,then sticking them into a blatantly difficult cup tie (If Wenger is seriously surprised at how Stoke play,he should step down now) & playing Emmanual-Thomas,Eastmond & Coquelin out of position.

    Mind boggling.

    As for celeb yarns, only loads on the mad blonde but she’s old news surely!

    See you soon for a beer eh!

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  • goonamerica

    1. cameroon are out of the anc and will be back by the end of the week. will he play is the bigger question. he has been missed no doubt.
    2. use of the towel is a real problem for me. come to emirates do you think they can use a towel? bring their own ball people? and therefore not level playing field. I know ref said we could use it too but the point is all games should be equal with same rules not just those at stoke.
    3. stoke scored 2 good goals (1st and 2nd) silvestre and campbell had the ball thrown over head for first and We’re given fabiansky sh*t about it? there is enough blame to go around on that one.

    Enuf said on that because the winner of the match got…….

    an away tie with manchester city!

    thank you very much would rather have lost to stoke and not expend the effort on playing mancity on about february 15. time off and focus on epl and champs league is much more important.

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