Thursday, 17 May 2012

We’re Arsenal, Cesc…so was Rocky

David-Rocastle

by CARL ELDRIDGE  It is a time for a bit of perspective when it comes to the club we all love, the Arsenal. Yes, it looks as if super Cesc may be riding off into the Spanish sunset. Yes, his proposed move to Barcelona is a huge blow for us given the stage of his career he is at, his importance in our rhythm, and the negative noises his exit would send out about us as a club.

And, yes it further adds fuel to the fire of those amongst us who have grown weary of AW and his strident views and who want to burn him at the stake. But, you know what, I didn’t start supporting the Arsenal because of one player. I haven’t spent the past 38 years of my life watching the rip-roaring Reds over land and sea because of one player. If I can witness the departure of Liam Brady and live to tell the tale, you can do the same with Cesc.

By God (Dennis) I am not going to allow my support of the club waver because a young Spaniard with a Catalan calling is going to return home to his friends, family and the club he loves. Put yourself in his boots in reverse. Say you are, like me, Arsenal through and through (and if you are reading this one can assume you are) and you’re playing abroad be it at Barcelona or the Bernabeu — at some point, you would want to live the dream and play for ‘your’ club. Not a problem. It’s going to happen. End of.

So why are we surprised? Why are we gnashing our teeth, caterwauling and letting this episode, sorry as it may be, get us down? We’re supporters. We do just that, or at least are supposed to. Support. Yes, we are hugely deflated by Cesc’s supposed (and it is far from a done deal, remember) move. Who wouldn’t be? We have been treated to his rare talent and of course we feel privileged to have witnessed his journey from fresh-faced Spanish kid to, er, fresh-faced Spanish 23-year-old.

He has been an absolute joy to have at Arsenal. He is/was our leader. Our captain. Our talisman. The kind of player of whom fans of other teams would speak highly. “He’s a bit special,” they would say. And he is. But what is more special is the Arsenal Football Club. More special than super Cesc by a distance.

If he does leave it will, I concede, throw open the wider argument of AW’s reign and, by his standards, the lean period which we have been through. But there in lies the answer to all the negative questions that are bombarding our club. Even if and when AW is no longer part of the Arsenal, the club will still exude majesty. Still excite true fans by the merest mention of our name. The Arsenal. We’re not some fucking two-bob Johnny come-lately mob who get excited by finishing fourth in the league, for instance. We’ve got history. We are the Arsenal. Not just Arsenal. The ‘the’ is so important.

Who could ever see us surviving the devastating death of Herbert Chapman? What did our fans think when we went from 1953 to 1970 without bothering the silverware? They stuck with the Arsenal. Losing to Swindon in the League Cup in 1969. Undeterred they said, defiantly, ’we’re the Arsenal’. Other traumas have come and gone during my support. Ipswich at Wembley in 78. I was 13 and thought the world had ended as I trudged out of the old Twin Towers with my old man. I was in Brussells 1980 when Denton nicked the Cup Winner’s Cup off Mario Kempes outside the ground after Valencia had beaten us on pens. I am still mentally scarred from that night. But we grow stronger because of it.

I was at York City when Keith Houchen scored from the spot to knock us out of the FA Cup. Disaster. But stronger. Wrexham was a similar story. Still, my love of our club grew stronger. Any goal conceded, let alone the unthinkable, a defeat, against the team that dare not mention its name, tears out our heart. Temporarily. Suffer the lows to enjoy the highs (in no order): A hat-trick of league titles. Doubles. Euro glory nights…Sampdoria away. Copenhagen. Milan. Madrid. Anfield 89. Title at Old Trafford. Two titles at WHL. Invincibles. Wembley 79. Chelsea in Cardiff…it’s only Romford Pele. Villareal. Lehmann saves. And on and on we go.

Arsenal remain. I am not saying for one minute we shouldn’t be critical of the current regime and how hampered we have been by the financial constraints imposed on us by the new stadium. Of course that will be open for debate. And losing super Cesc is sad (if he goes).

But I reiterate, let’s have some perspective. I’ll tell you one player far more important than Cesc Fabregas in the fabric of the Arsenal, as fabulous as Cesc is: David Rocastle. RIP. Think about it. We are the Arsenal. Always remember that.

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Eldo71

Arsenal fan for 40 years. Schoolboys, North Bank, Clock End then East Upper. Then Emirates. AFC dream team: Wilson, Dixon, Sansom, Adams, Pates, Brady, Williams, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Wright. Subs: Seaman, Eldridge, Wilshere, RVP, Ball. Manager: Arsene Chapman.

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  • lemurph

    well said!

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  • josh matthews

    i totally agree, n for all the so called “gooners” who say wenger must go, just remember where cesc came from, no where, he wasnt a “Big Name” that we all want n yet he was in the team at 16 n its all down to Arsene Wenger!! He is and always be an Arsenal Legend unlike Cesc Fabregas unfortunately who didnt stay long enough to be given that status

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  • Guildford

    Well said

    May I also add, we will keep on having this situation with Vieira/Henry/Fabregas (providing we keep on unearthing quality that is) all the time we buy foreign players.

    Its to be expected,London born & bred David Rocastle was an Arsenal fan as a kid,come through the ranks & loved every second he spent at his club.

    Wenger has brought us mercenaries that see playing for Arsene FC as adding to their CV before they look to move on to one of the European giants.

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  • Mohamed

    Either we arsenal will struggle for the next 5 years,with star players following Fab or we will have a change.We will completely be transformed almost Barca like,ironically.

    When Barca were under performing they had too much luggage everywhere.The fantastic 4, consisting of Kluivert, Rivaldo, Luis Enrique and the almost irreplacable like, Figo all left or faded somehow but they ended up being stronger than ever.

    I feel this could be the same for Arsenal.There will be major changes to the team if Fab leaves.BUT..I am not saying that this change will start with anew manager but rather Wenger changing himself.

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  • Super Colin Patesy

    Farkin Excellent Post. Nothing whatsoever to add.

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  • Rwandan gooner

    Such a well stated article from a true fan. you have really seen much of our team. But surely id Cesc goes, its temporarily a disaster. Wenger must explain this coz he is too soft and takes ages to solve simple issues.

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  • harper-1

    True enuf, Eldo, but right now this is what I’m thinking of:

    Our decline after we lost Brady, our best player. Like Cesc, he too got only one cup trophy with us. And then he left for Europe where he got more trophies.

    And Arsenal?

    We went thru a serious, severe period of decline and it took a long long time to get back up again.

    Utd can lose their best player and still come in 2nd.

    We’re not Utd. We can’t lose our best player and not have it affect the fortunes of the club. What will this do to RVP?

    I will continue to support the Arsenal, I can do nothing else. But I’m very afraid of what lies in our future.

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  • femi ogunnaike

    well said. its about THE ARSENAL,not aboout individuals. i cried when chippy left,unhappy when f stapleton went,saw arsenal lose to walsall at home,punched the air when g graham won the milk cup. I LOVE MY GUNNERS!!!!!!!!

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  • josh matthews

    To harper-1,

    wasnt u afraid when overmars and Petit left?

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  • Matt

    If he goes, he goes. I love him but things like this happen in football. The thing that pisses me off the most about it is the way those smug Barca cunts have gone about tapping him up. That and the Press trying to drive out all of the Premiership’s best players. Ronaldo last season, Cesc this. Torres and Drogba next and then they’ll moan when each team is full Of Titus Brambles and playing dull football. So, to sum up…Barca are cunts, Press are also cunts.

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  • PTangYangKipperBang

    Beautiful! So refreshing to hear proper fan speak from the heart. Replying to Guildford; I have thought that if we had more local boys we would have more loyalty. But is this really the case when the pound notes come calling. Look at the likes of Rooney. “Once a blue always a blue”. Yeah right. I do, nevertheless think that some English players will be good for us. Luckily, this seems to be underway with Gibbs, Wilshere, Lansbury, Watt, JET, Eastmond, Jay Simpson all comin along nicely.

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  • Liam

    watever im still gutted (

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  • PTangYangKipperBang

    Harper – Do you remember how liberated the team became when Thierry left. We came up short but we were awesome that year.

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  • Silvio

    I don’t want to see this spaniard again with an Arsenal shirt.
    Go out, NOW.

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  • boy

    soon arsenal will have so many good players coming through just like barca, we just have to stay on top and then arsenal will dominate english football producing amazing talents who wont leave for those cataln C**nts

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  • JP

    I have not been an Arsenal fan as long as you, but you are absolutely right. While I did become a fan during our early decade wonder years, I have been a Gooner long enough to love my Arsenal no matter who plays for us and what place we are in the league. Players come and go, but our storied club will survive no matter what.

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  • harper-1

    At the time, they were not our best players.

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  • ne

    If these true then it might be hard. Well the priority is a a class dm..i would like to see Jack to slot in that position being cover wit 2 class dm along with song. Just like what Cecs had stared b4 being cover by viera and gilberto.

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  • harper-1

    PLEASE STOP MAKING THESE IDIOTIC COMPARISONS WITH HENRY!!!

    Henry was past his best, the team had already moved on and evolved. It was time he went.

    CESC HASN’T EVEN REACHED HIS PEAK!

    AW intended this team to built around CESC!

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  • harper-1

    Been following updates on twitter all day and night long on this story. John Cross’ latest update is this:

    “Arsenal will not give up on Fabregas without fight, reminding him he’s on long contract, skipper,there’s been no offer and don’t wanna sell”

    A couple of other journos mentioned “fighting talk” from Arsenal.

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  • Michael

    we can win the title if he buys and i dont see that happening tbh he’ll stick with the same old junk….if he sells fabregas for less than 40m i say fuck it mate ur ruining this club u had ur glory days now piss of and retire (which i dont whant to happen but its a sinking ship at the moment).

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  • harper-1

    Yeah right, just like that amazingly good player Cesc Fabregas came thru the academy and all these wonderful young players who’ve come thru and FAILED TO WIN ANYTHING, collapsing every damned season. What a clown you are. As if LOSING OUR BEST PLAYER doesn’t have an affect on our other players. What do you think this means to RVP?

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  • bt62gooner

    Great post,love cesc as an arsenal play er but if he goes he goes.I love ARSENAL,THE ARSENAL, have done so longer than some people i call friends.Its has always been THE ARSENAL and will always be THE ARSENAL.Not one player, manager or board member now or in the future will be bigger than THE ARSENAL!!!

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  • Arsey

    This ‘cesc leaving’ is still academic at this stage. I still think there’s a greater chance that he’ll stay. As recently as last week he said he was in no hurry to leave. He signed an 8 year contract in 2006. He’s 23.

    If such flirtations persist this summer though I’d want him to leave. No point him hanging around a la Thierry. It’s better to move on.

    This difference with his departure and the others recently (Petit, Overmars, Henry, Viera etc) is that they left a better Arsenal team than the current one. A team that could cope more abley with one of the big stars moving on. Moreover, Cesc is 23 and is far from past it like they were. The problem is that Wenger will persist with Denilson and Diaby when neither of them will ever be worldbeaters. Neither will come close.

    We will move on, eventually. But Wenger’s attitude towards the current squad and recruitment will seriously hamper that progress on the evidence of the last 5 years.

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  • John

    The story doing the media rounds tonight is thst AW showed Cesc his list of targets for next season and he was so unimpressed, he said he was off. This, coupled with the rumours of a fee of only £30m speaks volumes. I really believe that the board have got to get a grip and tell AW to spend the monry, and not waste his time sticking with no-hopers like Denilson, Diaby, et., who have frankly let him down. I’ve supported the Arsenal for 55 years, and I’ve seen all the ups and downs, but if he persists with second raters, I fear for our future.

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  • harper-1

    What some gooners don’t understand is this:

    Arsene Wenger began building this team with the intention of BUILDING IT AROUND CESC.

    This young team he’s been building is Cesc’s team. He changed the team’s entire formation to a 4-3-3 to fit Cesc. AW had always been a solid 4-4-2 man but he changed it dramatically to fit Cesc.

    If Cesc, leaves, this means AW’s project since dismantling the Invincibles has failed. And he has to start fresh, reimagining a different team.

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  • Simon

    Top notch mate.

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  • eldo

    Shit forgot about Walsall…was in the lower east and your mention of the game brings back horrid memories…

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  • Nazir

    F’N brilliant post.
    Simply Brilliant. We are The Arsenal.

    We have always known about the class of the club, but your words here, in that we ‘exude majesty’…to steal a 1998 quote from Martin Tyler…’That sums it all up’

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  • eldo

    My old school mate Mark Brailsford was in PTangYangKipperBang in 1982…my six year ol wanders round saying it these days…cheers

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  • JP

    John, can you sight thoses sources?

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  • josh matthews

    Harper, these changes that were made for cesc and building around cesc hasnt worked though has it? so perhaps wenger needing a different project/different team is a good thing, this team hasnt been good enough even with cesc

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  • BillikenGooner

    I can still love the club and see the big picture (having been a fan since ’86) while still being gutted at the current state of the squad if Cesc does leave.

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  • Mystic

    Biggest problem with this post and the majority of comments are that they assume Fabregas leaving is a done deal. When he publically says adios I will accept and judge his behaviour, until then I’m not going to be sucked into the Barca mind games.Comment within an article from Reuters:
    Rafael Yuste, one of the Catalan club’s vice presidents, said bringing Arsenal captain Fabregas back to Barca, where he was a youth player, was “more complicated because lengthy negotiations with his club lie ahead.”

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  • Josh in Batimore

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself.

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  • Guildford

    Where the club has & continues to let us down is the wall of silence on these matters?

    No ‘theres been no bid’ or ‘Wenger has not met with Cesc’, so to everyone including me,it does seem that they’ve accepted that he wants to leave & so we start another shit unsettling summer

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  • Guildford

    Watt, Simpson & probably Lansbury won’t make it.

    Scott Parker would know what losing to the Yids means alot more than the visibly uninterested Denilson & Diaby.

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  • John

    Jp, the main source is Graham Hunter on Sky, who is generally well informed. Also, the Spaniard Ballenga, sorry I’m not sure of the spelling, but he was making these noises two weeks ago. In addition, the story is featured in several sports news flashes worldwide.

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  • eldo

    Wrong, not-so Mystic…I state all along that it is not a done deal…

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  • eldo

    Good point, Guildford, they haven’t a clue about tactical PR – bird who runs the press office (a Liverpool fan) is a cunt.

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  • ben

    This is the importance of home grown talents, imagine players like Gerrad, lampard and rest of them. when was the last time you hear say athing when they are linked with other clubs but for arsenal is a different story. every season we sell our best player. its normal that big clubs will come for your best player but its your duty to keep them off either by increasing the players weekly wages or buying more player to make the feel that he is playing for a trophy. what does that bastard of a coach and the Management does. keep making promises of buying experience and at thye end of the day you sell your best and buy children instead of men. F..k Wenger!!! F…k the Management at Arsenal and f..k you if you are not feeling my pain. I will tell you what will happen, Nasir will shift to cesc position. all this will not be happening if they had soled arsenal since. F..k all the management at Arsenal.;

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  • Mystic

    apologies eldo, re-reading you have put in comments to allay the basic leaning of your article – to suggest that you ‘state all along’ is pushing it a bit though. Whatever, like you I believe Arsenal are far more than any player.

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  • arsene wenger

    as long as we get as much as milan got for kaka it wont bother me as much, if we end up with 30 odd mill then its bad business, arsenal should have shut barca down 6 months ago by stating dont tap fab up unless you have a cheque for 65 million pound on it or you will embarras yourselfs, and they should have done it publically, instead they have allowed barca to turn his head and we will end up with 30 mill and the oh so tiring ..but we cant keepa player who wants to leave..BOLLOCKS they always spin us, 60 mill please mr hillwood,and all of it upfront, if they have 40 mill for a 30 year old villa and madrid have 56 mill for a 28 year old kaka then we have to get our money,we dont owe fab fuckall

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  • Tappy

    Didn’t Rocky cry when he was told he was being sold…. Legend
    Cesc will also be remembered fondly though… Good memories

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  • Guildford

    And are far more than any manager…

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  • eldo

    Nice one, Mystic…

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  • PTangYangKipperBang

    Cool! Its amazing the amount of people who comment on the name. For some reason people really remember it.

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  • arsene wenger

    personally i dont think fabregas will be remembered as anything other than a nearly man, if he leaves an god forbid we win something in the next couple years his name will be forgotten

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  • PTangYangKipperBang

    Yes I agree. I wasn’t being silly. The point is that the dynamics of a team are complex. It is not necessarily obvious what can happen when a player (even your best one) leaves. I was pointing out an instance of when the best player leaves does not necessarily mean disaster.

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  • ahmad from syria

    well said
    I still think if AW does not want to sell him then no one can force him to sell the player else I don’t understand why we have the contracts system in all the way I saw a lot of big players leaving The Arsenal most of them fad away and you know what I still see our great Arsenal standing

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  • Jimmy

    Are you THE Colin Pates?

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  • Jimmy

    An up down dayfor you Eldo. Good stuff as usual. Absoultely blew my lunch-time post out of the water. 1,250 words … 9 comments. I think four were my own :lol:

    When Cesc does go, I hope Sky Sports News keep running his super goal against Spurs this season … Knobs!

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  • CPM71

    Quality bit of prose. Absolutely agree with the sentiment. However it won’t make it any easier if Cesc does depart. I for one never get a name on my shirts, firstly for fear that the money grabbing b’stards that play the game will leave before the numbers cooled down, but secondly and more important I support the team, and the shirt, not the players. I don’t give the game a miss this week cos Rosicky’s not playing (I’d never see a match would I). Players come and go (mostly GO at the moment, granted) but the constant is the club. I’ve almost shed too many tears for the departure of too many players over the years. Move on. If Cesc goes it’s because he wants to. I would rather remember the good things he did than dwell on ifs and maybes. He better take a nice pillow with him as he’s gonna be sitting on is arse on the bench a lot with their midfield. Bring on lickle Jackie W!!!

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  • Merse-10

    [quote name=Guildford]Well said

    May I also add, we will keep on having this situation with Vieira/Henry/Fabregas (providing we keep on unearthing quality that is) all the time we buy foreign players.

    Its to be expected,London born & bred David Rocastle was an Arsenal fan as a kid,come through the ranks & loved every second he spent at his club.

    Wenger has brought us mercenaries that see playing for Arsene FC as adding to their CV before they look to move on to one of the European giants.[/quote]
    Ashley Cole was an Arsenal kid, how did that work out? Henry, Dennis and Vieira were loyal so were many others. It’s a poor argument i’m afraid. Cesc is not a mercanary.

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  • Merse-10

    Players come and go but the club will always remain. Today, 2morow – always Arsenal

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  • coggster

    awesome post..if he goes, he goes – we are The Arsenal.

    yes, if he goes, ill be reminded of the day Sir Liam left…
    “If I can witness the departure of Liam Brady and live to tell the tale, you can do the same with Cesc.”

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  • lee

    cesc leaving isnt as bad as everyone thinks

    1 wenger will have an extra 50 mil

    2 we will get a better, more vocal captain in either RVP or vermaelen

    3 nasri or ramsey can move to the central role and become better players.

    4 we could change our formation around as we only played the 4-3-3 to suit fabregas

    tbh i would be more worried if we lost song or vermaelen, at least we have players who can fill in for fabregas

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  • eldo

    Stay off the crack pipes, Jimmy!

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  • arsene wenger

    lol lee, wenger and the extra 50 mill. he had an extra 40 mill last season , he just needs to sign a new keeper because that cant kill denilson, players come and go, to be honest this current first team to me isnt even arsenal, theres no soul, no fight, id rather wenger went out bought yaya and felani, stuck them in the midfield with song, made us hard to beat, still roll the shyt teams over and win this way

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  • arsene wenger

    liam brady was sold, thats the difference, they tried sell brady to manure and he told the board to F right off he will decide where he goes if he is to leave, fab has kissed the badge all season and now fucked us so fuck him, 2 weeks ago he said he wanted to stay and win titles with us, now this, dont compare him to brady

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  • Mexican Gunner

    This is Arsenal FC. Not Cesc FC!!!!

    The only real concern is that Arsene doesnt replace well the big names.

    When Henry left his replacement was Eduardo.

    When Flamini, Gilberto and Diarra left their replacement was Denilson and a not ready Song.

    Im really scared that Arsene thinks the replacement of Cesc is already on the team.

    Get 55m and use 25 to buy Gourcuff and I will be more than happy.

    If Barca will pay 35m + Hleb + one year loan of Bojan for Villa who is almost 30 years old. We should get at least 45 + Toure.

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  • arsene wenger

    1 things for sure,project youth has ran its course,it served its purpose kept us withing touching distance of the top but when the best player leaves thats it, when we were winning games easily at the start of the season wenger should have been giving jack and jet a half hour here and there, and merida,instead acting like their asses were nailed to the bench ,now one of these poor souls will be thrown in at the deepend unless wenger grows a dick and figures out what a cheque book does

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  • arsene wenger

    [quote name=harper-1]What some gooners don’t understand is this:

    Arsene Wenger began building this team with the intention of BUILDING IT AROUND CESC.

    This young team he’s been building is Cesc’s team. He changed the team’s entire formation to a 4-3-3 to fit Cesc. AW had always been a solid 4-4-2 man but he changed it dramatically to fit Cesc.

    If Cesc, leaves, this means AW’s project since dismantling the Invincibles has failed. And he has to start fresh, reimagining a different team.[/quote]

    i hear what your saying mate but without a clinical striker, withot a decent defence,and without any width,and with two flappers in goal, it was hardly a team built around him,he was built around the team

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  • N4

    Let him go and wish him well i say, but make the dogs pay through thier pockets!!

    RIP The Bear, EIE

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  • db10

    RvP is loyal to arsenal and i don’t think he will leave. The more immediate problem for me could be arshavin. I know he hasn’t performed this season and has been critizised by some fans but he is still a quality player and if he leaves as well then that leaves alot more players that we need to replace along side the already long list of defensive players we need. I don’t think wenger will be willing to make such big changes all at once and it will be difficult to make them all gel as real madrid and man city have found out last season.

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  • arsene wenger

    is denilson ready? lol song was not ready, is denilson ready?

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  • db10

    denilson isn’t good enough. it doesn’t matter if he’s ready or not.

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  • Mexican Gunner

    Denilson was ready, the problem is that Arsene keeps killing him as a defensive midfielder.

    Dont get me wrong, if Toure is coming I think the first midfielder we should sell is Denilson. But Im sure that if he goes to a team like Aston Villa or Roma, he could be a good attacking midfielder.

    Asrene should sell Denilson because there´s no place for him with Toure and should buy a proper replacement for Cesc.

    And yes I dont think Song was ready in the 08/09 when all our dm´s left. But this season he finally earn his place on the team.

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  • Lesley

    [quote name=lee]cesc leaving isnt as bad as everyone thinks

    1 wenger will have an extra 50 mil

    2 we will get a better, more vocal captain in either RVP or vermaelen

    3 nasri or ramsey can move to the central role and become better players.

    4 we could change our formation around as we only played the 4-3-3 to suit fabregas

    tbh i would be more worried if we lost song or vermaelen, at least we have players who can fill in for fabregas[/quote]
    Are you crazy? Do you know anything about football? Guaranteed Fabergas will become one of the best footballers ever!Wait and see.No way Nasri or Ramsey can even lick his boots, nevermind fill them!

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  • jimmy2

    guys i can’t see what your all complaining about. Cesc this season was awful and physically he tends to get bullied around the park alot inthe permiership against lower teams. I think its a good thing hes going. i Never rated him that good anyway. He always needed a player alongside him to make him truely stand out. I think its time wenger woke up a little and stop running an business and start running a football club. Sucess breeds money wenger.Its time we got top of the line english talent that would actually stay at the club. In the end of the day like the author pointed out this is arsenal football club and the club comes first.

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  • Antonio Gramsci

    Thank you for writing this and reminding many “supporters” that there is far more to this club than what has happened in the past 10 years.

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  • Bloomsbury Gooner

    anyone else thinks its bullshit that he wants to go?wont believe it till i hear it from cesc himself.fact is barca dont need another midfielder they are desperate for at least one forward.they have pedro coming through who plays in cescs position and is an amazing talent who scored twenty plus goals in his first season. plus i dont think they can afford him and d villa who is definately going to cost 40 mill.wenger will convince cesc to stay another year

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  • Mexican Gunner

    Pedro is a winger NOT a midfielder. Villa will replace Henry. And Im also dont understand how they could afford Cesc and Villa.

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  • sandy

    [quote name=ben]This is the importance of home grown talents, imagine players like lampard [/quote]
    what ? you mean Lampard the West Ham FC born bread and butter ?

    not to mention Arsenal’s for life Cashley Cole and once a blue always a blue Rooney

    just like diving, your England boy do it too you know

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  • Joe_@**

    I think nasri will step up next season if fab leaves. nasri may not be as good in his range passing but he is a much better defensively, dibbling & covers more group. in fact he plays better as a cm that a winger. playing him with song will make the team more balance

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    Haha, I think Wenger will need one next season Eldo. Maybe I’ll purchase a stool on Drayton Road. The Emirates staff will have to prop dead bodies up against the walls around the stadium to liven the place up too when Cesc leaves …

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  • Norgryth

    Nasri will be the answer!

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  • HeGunner

    It’s good to eulogise or reminece on past glories and achievements. But other teams are moving on by constant investments in a few key players. I am not advocating for AW to be sacked but his constant excuse on hoping against hope that his young players will some how improve without some experience in key areas are coming home to haunt him. Why are we constantly losing our best players? It’s because The Royal Arsenal is not winning any trophys so far in the 21st century. Cesc saw his Barca academy mates winning silverware of course he’ll feel a longing that he’ll want to be where trophies are won coz that’s why he’s a footballer! Our manager instead talks about being in CL season in season out and his contemporaries are jostling to winning various competitions! There are too many contracdictions going on in the policies of AW that i think is hampering growth and good players are leaving in droves in order to win silverware.

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  • Guildford

    Whats the question?

    Shame Nasri was out of the team when Cesc was injured, we could have seen him step up to the plate & show his worth….

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  • Guildford

    Didn’t say Cesc was a mercenary but the fact was from day 1, he was always going to go back home.

    Cashley Hole is a spineless cunt of a man but a great left back, he went because he saw the writing on the wall & didn’t like the dressing room atmosphere at Arsenal.

    Years later it all comes out about Toure & Gallas,etc. The French club strutting around.

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  • sandy

    [quote name=Guildford]
    Cashley Hole is a spineless [censored] of a man but a great left back, he went because he saw the writing on the wall [/quote]
    more like he saw the writing on the cheque offered by Chelsea :)

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  • JJ

    soon you’ll see wenger get back saying – we’ve kept cesc, my arse its like 5 new top top signings… and all of you assumed 2b over the moon without any single transfer. wow! we’ve kept cesc, how fortunate we are…
    just dont understand, barca signs villa and we fight for cesc… what a top european, my arse!

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  • harper-1

    db10: “RvP is loyal to arsenal and i don’t think he will leave”

    That’s a joke of a comment. Just a couple of days ago we all would’ve said the exact same thing about CESC, ffs!

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  • harper-1

    WRONG – AW built this team around Cesc, end of.

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  • The Colonel

    A very fine piece and bang on the mark. It`s going to be a hard act to follow for someone, but follow it we can, and will. Just a shame that my season ticket renewal which stares at me now on my desk shows a depiction of my good self, with the arm of a certain Mr F around my shoulder. It feels more like a fill in the missing words contest right now… “Don`t worry son I`ll/you`ll** be OK” ** delete as applicable!!

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  • Dan

    Beautiful, couldn’t put it better.

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