Monday, 21 May 2012

Football Banning Orders – Out Of Control?

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Not much concrete Arsenal news since my last blog on Friday, aside from the reserves getting caned 4-1 by Welling United of the Conference South (six levels below the Premier League) despite us opening the scoring with a screamer from skipper Gavin Hoyte. Apparently there was a “free and frank exchange of views” in the visitors’ dressing room post –match. Quite right too. With the greatest of respect to Welling United a result like that – even taking into account that the game was a pre-season friendly and the young team we selected – is an embarrassment. A lesson learnt about taking all opponents seriously, we can but hope. 

I wasn’t at Welling as I was attending the annual Football Fans’ Parliament, organised by the Football Supporters’ Federation (FSF) held this year at Wembley Stadium. A very interesting day for all those who rocked up. One of the morning breakout sessions was on fans’ rights, policing and stewarding. I learnt some stuff I didn’t know which I think is well worth sharing. It concerns so-called “civil banning orders” made under Section 14(b) of the Football Spectators Act 1989 as amended by the Football (Disorder) Act 2000. 

I confess to being unaware of the sweeping scope of this provision and, more importantly, the VERY low burden of evidence required to obtain a banning order from a Magistrates’ Court. I think it’s worth reproducing the whole clause here: 

14B Banning orders made on a complaint  

(1)  An application for a banning order in respect of any person may be made by the chief officer of police for the area in which the person resides or appears to reside, if it appears to the officer that the condition in subsection (2) below is met.  

(2)  That condition is that the respondent has at any time caused or contributed to any violence or disorder in the United Kingdom or elsewhere.  

(3)  The application is to be made by complaint to a magistrates’ court.  

(4) If—  

(a)  it is proved on the application that the condition in subsection (2) above is met, and  

(b)  the court is satisfied that there are reasonable grounds to believe that making a banning order would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches, 

the court must make a banning order in respect of the respondent. 

Bear in mind that sub-section 14B2 says only that the person must have “contributed to” not have been convicted by a court of an offence of violence or disorder. 

No football supporter I know wants violent nutters anywhere near them at any time, never mind in and around a game. That said, neither do I want legislation on the books that can lead to just about anybody being given a banning order if the police want one. 

We’ve seen in the last couple of years that some police forces and individual officers have abused powers given to them by Parliament for an entirely different purpose. A group of Stoke City supporters quite happily minding their own business in a pub in Irlam on the outskirts of Manchester before their Premier League game at Old Trafford in November 2008 were rounded up by Greater Manchester police and “deported” in buses back to Stoke (including a Potters fan that actually lived in Manchester). 

The publican said the fans were drinking quietly and peacefully. The police rocked up, surrounded the pub and put the fans on buses. Those who had been put on the bus were refused permission to use the pub toilets, being told to pee in empty cups. The police used Section 27 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 to justify their actions. This gives any police officer the power to require any person to leave an area by a route they may direct for a period not exceeding 24 hours if they believe the person is or may participate in alcohol related disorder. 

To cut a long story short, the Football Supporters’ Federation took up the case working with the civil rights campaign Liberty. Legal action resulted in the supporters receiving a total of nearly £200,000 in compensation. This money of course came out of the pockets of you and me, the taxpayers. 

The police have a sometimes difficult job. I support them in doing it. I expect them to exercise appropriate restraint and act proportionately at all times. After the conference on Saturday I was chatting to an Everton supporter, a pleasant and intelligent man in his sixties. On a trip to a game at St James’ Park to play Toon the coach that he was on, organised by one of the Toffees supporters’ clubs was stopped by Northumbria Police. The whole coach was turned out and everybody body-searched. The police appeared upset when they found no alcohol or stash of weapons. 

After the match he queued up for something to eat with a few mates at a burger fan outside the ground. He and his mates were told that they had to leave Newcastle straight away. When he told the officer that the coach that they were on was carrying three disabled supporters, including one wheelchair user who wouldn’t return to the coach for at least ten-fifteen minutes and that all they wanted was something to eat before they got back on the coach, he was told he would be arrested if he didn’t get back on the coach straight away. No reason was given. He was just told, “Move or you’ll be arrested.” 

This sort of indignity is foisted on supporters quite happily minding their own business and trying to enjoy a day out at the match every single week of the season. I’ve suffered it too. Before anybody starts banging on about bleeding heart liberals or no smoke without fire, the chairman of the FSF Malcolm Clarke is a Stoke City fan too. At considerable personal risk to himself he has given prosecution evidence in a case which resulted in football banning orders for racist fans of his own club. A fact that’s often overlooked is that the single biggest group that suffers from football related disorder are football fans. 

That problem can’t and shouldn’t be used by power-mad police officers to harass citizens peacefully minding their own business. If you think likewise and you’re prepared to do something about it, get in touch with Amanda Jacks at the FSF: 

amanda.jacks@fsf.org.uk 

Also check out the FSF website at: 

http://www.fsf.org.uk 

Keep the faith! 

vic@arsenalinsider.com

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  • frimpong

    1. Randall and Simpson were moaning about not going to Austria and not ‘being up for the game today’. Ship ‘em out – but clearly taking their cues from some of the lazier bastards in the 1st team.

    2. The Old Bill love any chance to get stuck into football fans and treat them like animals. Fact. I’ve got three Met in my family and their highlight of last season was sorting out some of the Man Utd firm after Chelsea last year.

    Mind you, Stoke fans deserve it. They were disgusting before and after the game last season at ours and ended up with more of them being chucked out of the Grove than any other team last year.

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  • Dirk Gently

    @Frimpong You said

    What all of them?

    Every single Stoke fan there that day behaved in exactly the same way, and so they all deserve the same treatment? Amazing…

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  • Vic Crescit

    @ frimpong

    Couldn’t disagree about players not being arsed. The dressing room needs a big sign “LEAVE YOUR EGOS AT THE DOOR.”

    On the Stoke City fans, I agree some of them were completely out of order at the last two League games at the Grove. As Dirk Gently says however it wasn’t all of them.

    I for one have had more than enough of being policed as a potential rioter rather than a citizen minding my own business for the “crime” of being a football supporter.

    Of course anybody guilty of violence should be up the steps of the nearest magistrates’ court. The rest of us should be left in peace to get on with it.

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  • Durham Gooner

    No, but there’s a nasty atmosphere outside their ground and sometimes you wonder how “innocent” these fans are.
    Man City going the same way sadly.

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  • notoverthehill

    The Acts passed through Parliament under the guidance of Jack Straw, MP., have ALL been notorious for ignoring common sense. The local Police Authority will ensure fans are kept to “designated” areas. This enables the Local Council to overhype their law and order programme or pogram (?).
    A minority of criminals will infiltrate the well-supported club supporters’ buses, to “enable a week’s supply”.
    Other minorities like to pick on colour and origin. There used to be a natural stigma against such behaviour. Arsenalinsider has some bloggers who seem to live in a fantasy world all on their own.

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  • Vic Crescit

    @ Notoverthehill – not quite sure what points you’re making mate.

    @ Durham Gooner – I’m not naive. I know there are some horrible twats who attach themselves to football clubs. We have some. I’ve seen Arsenal “fans” behaving despicably both here and overseas.

    I can’t say that I’ve noticed a bad atmoshphere around the Britannia the three times I’ve been there in the last two seasons. Nor at Eastlands on my last visit for the Carling Cup game. I can only speak as I find.

    The real point though is that I don’t want my rights infringed, nor anybody elses. The problem is that most people don’t give a monkey’s about anybody’s rights but their own. If the rights of some are infringed then the rights of all are in danger.

    I’m by no means anti-police. My father was police officer for most of his working life. He worked at Arsenal as a sargeant and at Spurs whilst a Superintendent as match commander. I know how difficult the job can be. My old man retired before he had to, despite being on a promise of a promotion to Commander because he didn’t like the Rambo attitude of two many people coming into the job. His view was that a matchday with no arrests and no trouble meant he’d done his job. Too many of the new breed of copper were only too happy to get their truncheons out and start belting people in his view.

    I’ve been going to football for nearly 43 years now. I know that there are some horrible scroats around. Nobody is more delighted than me when one of them is caught and put up the steps. The law as it’s currently being applied is oppressive and a licence for the sort of action most people condemned during the apartheid era in South Africa.

    Quite right too.

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  • GPeace

    Completely agree with your last comment Vic. Liberties cannot be selectively infringed, if they are they become a matter of subjectivity and lose all meaning. Unfortunately we live in a ‘nanny’ state that’s only concern is enforced order. To bring this comment around to an Arsenal theme, it’s like what Arsene Wenger said last winter: “We have gone from individual initiative to collective responsibility.”

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