Monday, 21 May 2012

DOWN… BUT NOT OUT

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By Dave Mahmoudieh It’s been three days now since the capitulation to underscore all capitulations.  If this were Sesame Street, the word ‘recovered’ would be a tad premature for most Arsenal fans. But perhaps the word ‘perspective’ might be starting to nestle somewhere amongst the collective psyche of the Gooner fraternity. 

Let’s be honest. The result for Spu*s was – by their standards – a historic win achieved in historic circumstances. Which just goes to show how truly shite their history really is. Doubtless there’ll be DVD’s sold on street corners by every Tom, Yid and Harry, many of which will be unwrapped with gap-toothed glee just over a month from now – but hey, so what? Let’s not dwell on what we can’t change. Let’s look at what we can. Starting with our reaction. 

Since Saturday I’ve heard some utter nonsense from a few fellow supporters. Yes, we’re hurting. No, we shouldn’t have blown the opportunity to go top. And maybe we are just wasting our time with Wenger. But I would like to remind Arsenal fans everything of one thing: 

It ain’t over. 

And in a bid to separate the facts from our own fear-fuelled fiction, here is a compilation of the most common excuses I’ve heard as to why we should all just turn out the lights: 

‘We’ve lost 4 league games already this season’

So have Chelsea (the Champions). And we’ve already been to their place – they still await a trip to ours. Sure, our home form is in need of drastic improvement before they arrive. But we only lose at home to shit teams, remember? Spu*s kept that tradition going just fine. 

‘The team won’t recover mentally from such a humiliating result’

Cast your mind back to the 2007/08 season. Despite challenging on a number of fronts – and beating Spu*s home and away (coming back from a goal down to smash them in their own back yard, I might add) – we finished the season empty-handed. Meanwhile, up the road in Manc Land, a small enterprise known as Manchester United lost home and away to their arch rivals Man City, going down 1-0 at Eastlands and succumbing 2-1 at Old Trafford. The latter game, played on a Sunday in February 2008, coincided with nothing less than the 50th anniversary of the Munich air crash. Utd even wore a special strip to commemorate the occasion. If ever you want to win a game, it’s on a day like that. And if ever you don’t want to lose a game, it’s to your neighbors. Yet lose they did. I actually remember that game rather vividly as the evening after, Senderdross and Adebyebye put us 5 points clear at the summit with a 2-0 victory over Blackburn. Now… before you load your gun, what I am not saying is that a big club losing home and away to their arch rivals is a fated guarantee of winning the league. But what I am saying is that it can be done. What’s more, we still need to go to the Shithole this season, and you can bet we’ll be doing so like men with knives between our teeth after Saturday’s skirmish. 

‘This team has no winners’

Really? Cesc is a World Cup and European Championship winner. Robin is a World Cup Finalist, FA Cup winner. Squillaci has won the French league title, the Coupe de la France (the French FA Cup) twice and the Copa del Ray (Spanish FA Cup). Chamakh has won the French league title and French FA Cup. Vermaelen has won the Dutch league title and Dutch FA Cup twice. Arshavin has won the Russian league title and the UEFA Cup. For a relatively young squad, that’s not a bad selection of medals to show off at the training ground. 

‘This team never learn’

Granted, the negatives of Saturday’s results have been seen before. But the one modicum of positivity we can take is that if Wenger and his players don’t learn their lesson from this, they won’t learn it from anything. Throwing away two goal leads away at West Ham and away at Wigan last season are one thing. Doing it at home in the manner we did is beyond unacceptable. Even the 4-4 tutorial of a few seasons back was lost in translation. Clearly we needed to go one further in order to understand the message. But I for one – and hopefully for all – will live in the hope and expectation that this one will wake us up.  Otherwise, what’s the point? I think we owe it to ourselves to be optimistic after what we’ve seen this team come through. After all, confidence breeds confidence. 

‘We can’t hold a lead’

Last week at Everton, we held a lead. A few days before that at Wolves, we held a lead. Away at Man City – after missing a penalty – we held a lead. Away at Blackburn, we held a lead. At Sunderland, we didn’t hold a lead. But neither did Utd at Fulham, at Everton or at home to West Brom. And all of those were 2-goal leads. Shit happens. Sometimes mega shit. Sometimes incredi-shit. And sometimes – round about once every seventeen years – we even lose at home to Spu*s. 

Now it’s time to pick ourselves up and rise again. Like we always have. Had we won on Saturday we’d be top by one point right now. Not only that, but following impressive wins away at Everton and Wolves before it, we’d all be sat here confident of staying there. One result shouldn’t change that, no matter how humiliating it was. 

I think it’s time some of the fans (and I do only refer to a small minority here) stopped moaning that the players should roll their sleeves up and show some mental strength, only for those same fans to do the exact opposite. Where is our mental strength? Every time we lose some of us act like chickens who’ve just had their heads cut off, running around aimlessly and bleeding all over everything we come into contact with. 

The Premier League summit is still in reach. It’s not the route we wanted, but it’s the route we’re going to have to take. 

We’ve lost. Now let’s get over it and get back to winning…

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  • pedd

    wenger out,fabregas fuk off to barca

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  • simon

    Arsene Knows…..Ha Ha Ha..!!

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  • Merkan

    Yeah, and now we lose 2-0 to Braga, explain that one. TW*T

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  • OldGoon

    Wenger out. Get George Graham in

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  • Danish Gooner

    Dont be a cunt this team is fourth rate and the manager is an stubborn imbicil.

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  • bluecelica

    :-x Denilson :-x
    :-x Walcott :-x
    :-x Eboue :-x
    what a load of shite

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  • leslie crang

    Mekan its easy to explain.
    1. Its the ref’s fault.
    2. they tackle too hard.
    3. we were unlucky.

    Sprinkle on the press when being interview. Vola, thats Wenger for the last 5 years

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  • Danish Gooner

    Only this team can go from winning 6-0 to losing 2-0 to such a sub standard team like Braga(No offense) Arsenal are curently worse.

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  • Danish Gooner

    WENGER OUT !!!!!!!!

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  • Pedro_afc

    FOR FUCK SAKE! SACK WENGER NOW!!!

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  • neil pearce

    Why did’nt you wait until the debarcle in Braga had finish you PRICK

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  • mikespurs

    down but not out…of the CL hahaha lookin increasingly shakey now aint it,fabrigash done a hamstring oooh suits you sir lmfao

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  • Merkan

    Awww they tackle too hard :-( Im a sixteen year old and have supported arsenal for life. Im sick to death of having to defend this SHIT team to all these Man u, Spurs and chav supporters. Its not wengers fault, the plays need a right bollocking!!!

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  • STOP WENGERS PROJECT

    Did you really just post this as the Braga game ended.
    ARE YOU MENTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • jp

    Mr Wenger you fcuked it up again, u have been shown to be a clown. We cant be expected to take any more of this. We have turned into o joke of a team. That was much much much worse than saturday, thats a fcukin pub team 4 gods sake. Wenger either get us some big hard cb/cm fuck off. Ur team of liteweights r SHITE. Wenger OUT OUT OUT

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  • Red&White

    Denilson is shit……
    Our defense is shit….

    BRING INS SOME TOP CLASS DEFENDERS IN JANUARY OR ARSENAL ARENT WINNING SHIT!!!!!!

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  • Red&White

    FLAPPY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND BASIC POSITIONING EITHER…HE IS SHIT!!!

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  • Deary me Writer

    We didn’t hold a lead at Blackburn. We lost one and then regained it.
    You sir, are an imbecile. We won’t win the league. we won’t finish in the top 4, we won’t do anything until Wenger jogs on.

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  • DeeRexBox

    All I know is this…Arsenal control their own destiny in the Champions League, and are 2 points out of the lead in the EPL w/ a LOT of football to be played. They also have yet to play their best football of the season and have to work in the players whose injuries have kept them out. NOT WORRIED about this, and excited for the rest of the season.

    The Spares defeat was tough…just like us going into the White Hart Lane and handing them their A$$ was painful for the Spares.

    Get your guns up and quit complaining…lots of football left.

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  • anti-denilson

    we just lost to FC Braga 2-0. I am embarassed

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  • STOP WENGERS PROJECT

    One last chance Wenger. Buy proper players in January or seriously, FUCK OFF!

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  • Merkan

    I want what ever your smokeing mate

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  • leslie crang

    Christ, fabianski had no defenders. He was off his line and everything. Blame the defence. The ref was pretty poor (it was a pen and how we had more bookings i have no idea). But this team has no balls, spirit or leadership, either on or off the pitch. So we now have manure and chavs in the nxt month without cesc and verminator? Christ wenger your pretty fcked

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  • DeeRexBox

    [quote name=Merkan]I want what ever your smokeing mate[/quote]Yeah, this guy seems like a credible source. “smokeing”

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  • Jeff

    I’ve been one of Wengers biggest fans but i think it’s time to bring in someone knew because i feel under Wenger we will never win anything EVER!

    Going to slash my wrists now!!!

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  • Deary me Writer

    DONT FUCKING INSULT DENNY YOU TWAT

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  • GOONER!1996

    Your all saying get wenger out. WHo would you replace him with. MICK MCCARTHY, TONY PULIS? We have one of the best managers in the world. He’s fucking nominated for world manager of the year.

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  • Deary me Writer

    AS I SAID. DONT FUCKING INSULT DENNY YOU CUNT

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  • Joeyboy

    I would not mind anymore if Wenger left. This team is going nowhere and the problems have been evident for the last few years, and still havn’t been rectified. Defence is still shit. Squillaci, Dojorou, Koscielny are all shit. Vermalean is our only decent defender. Wenger has to change his ways (which he wont) or leave at the end of the season. We are the laughing stock of the leauge and its beginning to take the piss

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  • Deary me Writer

    Also means there’s lots for other teams that are way better than these shitheads (Except denny and Djourou

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  • hedgewire

    lets give a rpund of applause to the lads for getting on the plane, making a big job of an easy group and last but not least being shite. all together now hip hip……..

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  • del

    what a fucking sham we need world class players now or we are doomed

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  • Merkan

    hoorayyyy. Load of shit.

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  • hedgewire

    here here

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  • Red&White

    I just did…what are you going to do about it..absolutely nothing…so shut the fuck up…..he was shit tonight and hasnt looked decent in a while…truth hurts….fucking twat

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  • Deary me Writer

    [quote name=hedgewire]here here[/quote]
    WE WANT DENNY, WE WANT DENNY, WE WANT DENNT DENNY DENNY DENNY AS OUR CAAAPTAAAIIIIN.

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  • GOONER!1996

    Thats why we’re still in all competioins. We need to win at home to partizan to go through. he’s been playing a stronger team in the carling cup than in the champions league. CHELSKI just beat ZILIANA who are 2nd place in the romanian league. we lost to a team that beat sevilla and finished second in the portugese leage with porto, benfica and lisbon.

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  • martie

    WENGER CNA FUCK RIGHT OF, AND TAKE HIS WHOLE SHIT TO SOMLAI WITH HIM FOR ALL I CARE. FUCKING MONKEY CLOWN.

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  • Deary me Writer

    Unjustly. Very unjustly. He shouldn’t be because he’s shit. Your mindset is shit. Replace the lad with Owen Coyle, he might add some steel to these wankers. (Except Denny and Djourou

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  • DANTHEHOTSPURSMAN

    IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER!!!
    IM LAUGHIN SO MUCH I GOT TEARS IN ME EYES!!!
    U GOONERS R BETTER THAN DA COMEDY CHANEL!
    IT LOOKS LIKE ARSENAL R INPLODING BIGTIME!!!! HAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!!

    SACK DEM TITTIES BOYS!!! HEEHEEEHEEEEE!!

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  • Merkan

    your nan has a 16″ fat cock and she slaps you and twitch over the face with it. You scrub her wooden leg while it floots in the bath. Anythiing else stupid to say..? Bring it.

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  • Dotmaan

    Your explanation is full of crap. Are you saying we’ve been taken points off Chelski at home in the last two seasons? You better get your FACTs right. And stop comparing Arsenal with Mancs and Chelski. We haven’t even reached the period of our Ultra Capitulation yet and the whole team is crumbling. This current bunch, particularly the backline, is the worst ever Arsenal I can ever imagine!

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  • Carl67

    Can’t take anymore of this… we’ve become the laughin stock of football.

    WENGER PLEASE LEAVE NOW

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  • Aussie Jack

    Third rate display by a third grade team. What ever happened to the beautiful game and the flowing football?Arsenal simply don`t have the right mix of players to challenge seriously for anything.
    Only two players impressed, Gibbs and Nasri (when he came on), Rosicky worked hard as always the rest were like `Brown`s cows`.
    Fabregas looks like he`s going to follow in the footsteps of R.V.P; Bendtner, Eboue and Walcott are substitutes at best.

    On the Vela penalty appeal. Yes!, the referee got it wrong and he knew it so to justify his error he gave Vela a yellow card for diving. How weak can you get.? It`s called `covering your arse`.

    Another forgetable match…

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  • pedrogooner

    I have been and will be a gooner 4 life but bloody hell things are getting poor.

    I don’t know what is more embarassing tonights result or the fact that every season I say to myself and friends that this will be our year.

    To be honest I think even if we get lucky and win a cup fa/carling it will just disguise our failings.

    I think we have some quality players but we need a new angle and I hope Mr Wenger is the one to bring it but for the first time ever i’m not too sure. :oops: :cry:

    Is being a supporter of any other club as emotionally bad for your health.

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  • Arsnal4life

    You all must be fckin Spurs fans so get the fck out and go to one of their blogs. I was pissed of after saturdays debacle and bloody imploding after the Braga game but the worst thing was yet to come, namely the comments here. This is nothing less than a disgrace (2 use the words of a fcner plaing for a shite team you lots probably support).
    “Buy this and that player.”. go fck a arab in Manchester why dont you!
    “Wenger out..” Seriously..never ever call yourself a gunners fan in public please.

    Who the hell needs the shitty reporters, sky high delusional refs or the fckin inbreed morons as enemies when our beloved club have you guys calling themselves supporters?!

    Sod off will ya!

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  • eve

    arsene stays, cesc stays, i love all the team, i realy felt for you all tonight, them diving getting free kick, us getting booked for them,a blatent pen for us but vela gets booked for diving,if the ref had done his job fairly we would of had a pen which if scored would of boosted confidence,we were not playing to our capabilities, but the crappy ref and extra officials were a waste of space, still love the arsenal whatever the result, maybe some so called fans should be more supportive to our GREAT team.

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  • Bob

    It’s amazing how many of deluded supporters we have out there. How can they keep buying into Wengers positivity. The one thing that has kept wenger going was his ability to find a player on the cheap and develop them into something special… Apart from the recent home grow English ones the others have dried up… No more Adebayors and Anelkas being sold for mega money. Instead poor decisions buying Arshavin, Squillaci and Koscielny.. The magic hat is lost people. Time for a change. Someone who is going to get in some real power and new training methods.

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  • pedrogooner

    Also to all the Spurs fans coming on here to rub it in have you really nothing better to do with your life.

    Its really really really not cool.

    You got stuffed by bolton last week it happens we just have to deal with it without some gimp poking fun.

    Grow up and gloat at the end of the season if you win something.

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  • Drew

    Just goes to show how downhill this website has gone. Trying to put out too many stories and its making the site unmanageable & effecting the quality of the blogs

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  • JINJIWA VUVUZELA

    I believe Wenger dont need to go but his philosophy should go. He should learn from others and stop thinking that he can change the terrain because it is not that easy.

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  • DOZIE DANIELS

    ARSENAL TEAM ARE BUNCH OF LAZY PLAYERS, THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO PLAY AND CANNOT PLAY WELL THIS SEASON,

    LOOSING THIS TYPE OF MATCH IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IS TOO BAD. I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM

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  • Pedro_afc

    Who r u callin a PRICK u FUCKFACE!
    I did wait until the much finished and if that makes any difference.
    In wenger me no trust anymore.He has become a loser and we will win peanuts if we carry on with him!

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  • wenger still the man

    here we go again the Wenger out wankers are back! do us all a favour and support chelsea you mugs

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  • leslie

    Arsenal4life. Agreed Wenger has done a lot, but Braga mate? Were they any good? Honestly? No disrespect they were crap. This defeat is up there with losing to K.F.C. Winterslag in the early 80′s. Wenger has not spent or improved the squad. Where were the leaders? The Steve Williams, Paul Davis, Adams, Keowns, O’leary’s and Kevin Richardsons? Not FUCKING in this team r they. This team is spineless. And wenger is the man who makes the decisions and recieves the criticism (and 8-10 million p/year). So. Tough titties

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  • Gooner Kev

    Just how are things getting poor? 2 points off the top of the league, still in all competitions and still managing to be competitive despite moving to a new stadium. I know it sounds easy cuz we’ve all played Champ Man but this is actual real life.

    I honestly believe the tossers who are calling for Wenger’s head obviously have only supported Arsenal since the Invincibles, only want to unrealistically support a team that always wins and can piss off and support Man U or Chelsea.

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  • The YIDO

    Ha ha ha you lot are shitting it big time !!!!getting rid of wenger would be the worst thing to do , he’s a top manager , he just needs to loosen the purse strings !!!!!

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  • Pedro_afc

    HIDDINK!!!

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  • TimeIsUp

    Wnger out NOW!!! This is getting embarrassing. The board will never sack him unless we get our feelings out in public. Time for a protest after the next home game!!!!

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  • Red&White

    do you honestly think people actually mean half the things they say on this blog? it’s called venting and everyone has a right to it; especially after watching their favorite team be humiliated 2 games in a row…I”ll still stand by the Arsenal, but I also have a right to call it like I see it…shitty defending will not win trophies…if the defending can improve we will win something this year

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  • G_star

    All this sack Wenger so pathetic. Arsenal hadn’t won the league for 7 years before Wenger came!!! Is your memory that short?! We have only won the league 13 times, so almost a quarter of them brought to us (not bought to us) by Wenger. We only won the FA cup 10 times, half of the won by guess who? Wenger!

    We are 2 points from the leaders and look at the the rest of the team that make up the rest of the top 4 and see how much they have had to spend to get there! Whilst Wenger has spent a fraction.

    It hurts me too, but look more long term and at the stability of the club.

    Maybe today too many players were rested, but that referee was total shite. He should have dished out more than 2 yellow cards to the opposition for there 25 fouls, whereas we got 5 yellow cards for 19 fouls! A tackle from behind and injuring eboue, no yellow card!
    How many times was rosicky tripped and taken out?

    We should have had a blatant penalty and that defender should have had a red.

    All that aside, we should have played a lot better. Hopefully now Bendtnar will shut his stupid face and realise he doesn’t deserve a starting place.

    I hate thickle moron supporters who say Wenger should be sacked!

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  • eve

    well ive been an arsenal supporter since 1979, and you dont have to defend our so called shit team, you can piss off and support man u, chelsea or whoever you dam well want, just stop slagging of the greatest team on the planet, i love them whatever, and being a fan so should you.

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  • pedrogooner

    Arsenal job vacancy.

    A position has arisen for the right candidate at our club.

    Job title Coach/Instructor.

    To teach players how to show passion to fight til the very end and play every match like its a cup final.

    We sign up players with great technical abilty but dont educate them to fight.

    Its all well and good playing great football but sometimes you have to rough it out and sadly we can’t do it.

    We need to grow some balls.

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  • kswann

    Wenger has failed he must go before he drags this club back even more or he needs to get a tacticle number two
    Ray Wilkins anyone?

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  • TimeIsUp

    Ok Wenger inherited Adams/Bould/Dixon/Wright/Bergkamp/Parlour/Keown and got remarkably lucky in signing Henry and Viera who turned out to be the best striker and defensive midfielder of a generation. Yes he won trophies but this team is now ENTIRELY his….and it is SHIT!!!

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  • Junaid Tariq

    defenders were caught again.. no hunger to win against such an average braga.. we hit ourselves again n i wont b surprised if this team take a beating against agbonlahore n co this weekend.. our midfielders were too lightweight.. we only have 1 proper DM (song) in our whole squad.. we have fallen way behind… NOT buying a keeping has cost us big time … i hope i m wrong but wid this squad i dont c us winning anything.. carling cup??? close but still no

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  • pedrogooner

    I have to agree with kswann

    I would say bring in Ray Wilkins as number 2 as it will give us a change in direction.

    The only reason I say this is because i’m sure our failings are down to the fact every one at the club agrees with everything that arsene says.

    How can you fix a problem if you can’t see it because everyone kisses your ass.

    Maybe with his guidance the boys will toughen up and fight and play fantastic football.

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  • jp

    arsnal4life – u cant even spell arsenal. People come here to get things off their chests and view opinions, i am of the opinion you need to f off, if you dont like dont look. We are all hurtin, you keep ur rose tinted glasses on all u like, but we will tell it like it is, and it is utter bollocks, and its the managers fault he picks the team, makes the changes, tactics, transfers. E just aint doin it, if you done ur job like he,s doin his ud be out on yer ear, no matter how long ou were there, as we all know theres no loyalty in football, its a business, and arsenal wont keep makin the dosh when ther churnin out tosh.

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  • DANTHEHOTSPURMAN

    JUST WATCHED THE GOALS AGAIN ON SKYSPORTS OOOOHOOOOO!!! BRAGAS GOALS WERE NOT BAD U KNOW HEHEHEEEE!!!!

    I TELL U WHAT GOONERS. MAYBE U SHOUD HIT URSELVES OVER DA HEAD WITH A PAN AND ERASE ALL MEMORY OF BEIN ARSENAL FANS AND THEN BUY DA DVD OF DA GREAT SPURS 3-2 VICTORY OVER DA GOONERS DE OTHER DAY AND SAY…HEY THATS A GOOD TEAM…MAYBE WE SHOUD SUPPORT DEM…SORTED!

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  • GoonerVance

    The prestige of this club as of late is almost in the toilet…you can keep telling fans to piss off if they don’t “support” the team, but that won’t stop this team from being the sad joke that it is.

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  • danhighamsparkgunner

    I feel sad to be associated with thsde fickle supporters on here,they should f off and support Spuds and then see what it’s like to not win a league for 50 years not 6 years, no wonder spuds are laughing at us for such an over the top reaction to a game that in the long run won’t mean anything.it was so obviously a match fixed by UEFA there were so many questionable decisions,the referee was appalling.arsenal will win trophies this year without a doubt, a defeat today is not the end of the world although some people seem to think it is.I have been a season ticket holder for nearly 30 years and have seen a lot worse teams than this Arsenal one.Aaron ramsey played his first game today and we should be focusing on that.Ee will still qualify for the CL and there is no need to press the panic button yet.When we win against Villa on saturday we will be top of the league.People have very short memories I bet half of the Wenger out brigade were singing his praises a week ago after the Everton game.
    In Arsene we Trust

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  • DANTHEHOTSPURMAN

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    C’MON UUUUUU SSSPPPUUURRRSSS!!!!

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  • danhighamsparkgunner

    Hi
    dan how old were you when Spurs last won the league? what is it the 50th Anniversary ??? For such an FA Cup team refresh my memory when was the last time you won that ? Were you even born then ??
    you support 1 shit team who will never top the Arsenal trophy wise.your cabinet is bare !!!!!! Didn’t see you much until last year let alone after your 4-1 tanking at home in the cup.You should fuck off back to a spurs site and talk bollox to them instead

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  • Pedro_afc

    If we don’t win at villa me and many other gooners r protesting for wenger out in next home game!

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  • Arsenal Norway

    What the f*ck happend to the ref?? They were allowed to kick us down through 90 minutes and got 2 yellow cards. As soon as arsenal put in one tackle it was straight yellow. And how on earth can you give vela a yellow for diving??? It was the most obvious penalty I have seen in my entire life!! This match has to be investigated, I cannot believe this match was not fixed!!

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  • leslie

    Next home game? What, wigan in the league cup cos the tickets are cheap? No ‘hard core’ fans will be there pedro. The board wont sack him, there too scared….. Wenger’s bitching about the refs after, is totally pathetic……plz wenger, u dropped song in the last 2 ecl games, when we needed him.

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  • Pedro_afc

    STOP LOOKIN AT YESTERDAY U FOOL.. ITS DA PRESENT AND FUTURE THAT COUNTS AND FOR SPURS ITS LOOKIN FUCKING FANTASTIC! BUT FOR U LOT… SORRY TO SAY BUT AS AN OUTSIDER…IT LOOKS LIKE UR FUCKED!!!

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  • GoonerForLife

    I would just like to extend my congratulations to the wonderful team that is Arsenal. A team that has been so incredibly poor in recent times that they have sapped any real emotion from me.

    I suspect my emotions have been used up after watching us throw away brilliant opportunities time after time.

    But on the bright side, I have gained a very high pain threshold!!!!

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  • rokabox

    What a load of shite, mediocre players without any leader among them. Statistics don’t win you anything. Even when the officials were horse arses, you can’t loose a game like that. Deja vu over and over again. Wake up Mr Wenger!!

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  • GoonerForLife

    So when Wenger dies…so does the club I assume.

    All this bullshit about “Who will we replace Wenger with?” Who the fuck was Wenger before Arsenal!?

    There was an Arsenal before him and there will be a God damn Arsenal after him.

    I don’t buy for one second that Arsene is the only man for this job…not one bit!!!!

    People are just afraid to step out of comfort zones. We don’t have any positive risk takers on the board and a lot of the fans. Which is Ironc because we took a freaking big risk with Wenger.

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  • john

    i think wenger the only manager that can keep a young team like us as a title contender..i dont think any manager can keep a young team like us to be top 4 all these years beside wenger..just try to be patient and we will champion again..i believe this team can be invisible again..just we are unlucky sometimes..for those who always blame this team, u guys can fuck off to other team!

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  • Jan

    Arsenal, title contender? You must’ve come from Mars.

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  • Jan

    “no wonder spuds are laughing at us”. You think only spuds are laughing at us? The whole football world are laughing at us for being an incompetent, clueless, gutless team.

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  • Berg10

    Merkan

    ” Im a sixteen year old and have supported arsenal for life. Im sick to death of having to defend this SHIT team to all these Man u, Spurs and chav supporters. “

    Wow, as long as that?? You spoilt little shit.

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  • Berg10

    G Star

    That’s the best response so far.

    True, we’re all gutted after the last two games but knee jerk reactions are a no no, saying that, the boss needs to re-think his starategy, I agree he’s the best we’ve had but we’re not cutting the mustard at the moment and worst of all we didn’t look anywhere near good enough despite the shit decisions of the idiot ref and before anyone states we made 7 changes this squad of players are all taught the same philosophy (we’re told) and that is how they are meant togel instantly together.

    Bendtner WAS the worst of a poor performance all round and for me Fabregas came a close second, and has done for quite a while.

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  • Berg10

    pedrogooner

    So you’re saying if RW came in he wouldn’t have to kiss the same ass?
    He’d probably be shown the exit by half time.

    I’m not disagreeing with your assessment and would like to see a few changes but it would appear to me that Pat Rice and co need to be yes men to maintain their positions.

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  • Berg10

    DAN

    EYD RATHUR EET SHIT THAN SEPORT YOR SHYT LOT. WRYTING DIS WAY SO DAT YOO CAN UNDARSTAND MEE. PRICK!!!!

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  • Asmo

    Arsenal fans just an embarrassment on here. Perspective.

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  • Asmo

    You epitomise everything that is wrong with the Arsenal blogosphere and the arm-folding Emirates Customers.

    You get everything you deserve.

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  • Asmo

    [quote name=Danish Gooner]Only this team can go from winning 6-0 to losing 2-0 to such a sub standard team like Braga(No offense) Arsenal are curently worse.[/quote]
    Are you aware of the concept of squad rotation, or have you only been watching football since 2004?

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  • Asmo

    [quote name=neil pearce]Why did’nt you wait until the debarcle in Braga had finish you PRICK[/quote]
    Because the point still stands, or in your case sails aimlessly over your head.

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  • Dirty Turky

    [quote name=Merkan]Awww they tackle too hard :-( Im a sixteen year old and have supported arsenal for life. Im sick to death of having to defend this SHIT team to all these Man u, Spurs and chav supporters.

    16 years old eh? Explains a lot of your juvenile comments!

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  • GoonerDave

    Some of the nonsense on here from Arsenal fans is a disgrace.
    I can totally understand the spurs fans acting immature and petty, but we are a far classier club than them and they know it. Its what bothers them more than anything.
    Get a grip, moaning, bitching and insulting each other? Insulting your fellow Gunners fans because they dont see things the same as you?
    A lot of the people on here should be very ashamed of themselves. Im ashamed to support the same club as some of the childish and classless people on here.
    We are Arsenal.
    Leave the nonsense and bitching and bad language to the yids.

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  • Jimloveafc

    WENDER OUT!!!!

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  • Berg10

    Learn to spell his name first dickhead!

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  • Alex Yiddo

    It’s so satisfying to see this article and comments CLUTCH onto past glories against us. I remember when we won the carling cup, and you lot claimed it was insignificant.

    So let’s reverse things. When was the last time you beat us in the league? This is the present. Save the invincibles talk for your own glee club. Remember, a cup win isn’t really important.

    You have some great players, and you play some fantastic football. But to honestly be so blind as to think we don’t have those things, is utter arrogance. Shame on you as a football fan if you don’t.

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  • Dan

    You were saying……..

    Last nights performance makes a complete mockery of your piece!

    Regardless of the ref and the penalty we were not good enough and we showed not 1 ounce of fight. Face it, we are not the team or club on the brink of european domination we once were. Wenger saw to that by selling the entire unbeaten squad.

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  • redanddread

    I have been teh most optimistic of fans for many years now (and have been supprting The Arsenal since 1970) but there comes a time when reality kicks in and it now has. I do not see that we have “what” it takes to win the big ones. And if we are to be honest we have not had “what” it takes for about 6 years. The reality is that we have not shown the necessary ability to win the big ones.

    We play in one of the best stadiums in the world,a re one of the richest clubs in the world and are not far off ffrom having one of the best teams in the world. Fans are looking for the team to show that they have matured and can turn up, turn on and win when it really counts-something the team has failed to do in glorious magnificence since 2004!

    We all had high hopes for this and every season since 2004 but yet again it looks like unrequited support.

    We just want to see improvement and it has not been there-stagnation is the term for our 1st team.

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  • mattgooner

    u all call ya self arsenal supporters. why dont u just all fuck off and support the spuds who havent won a league trophy in 50yrs

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  • mattgooner

    fuck of alex yiddo u muppet why dont u fuck off to 1 of ya yido sites and tal about ya lose to bolton rather than coming on an arsenal site and talk about ours. all yids r arsenal supporters arent they whenever we lose they make a big deal out of it. GROW UP

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  • DaveM

    Hi All,

    I am the writer of the above article. In response to some of the negative comments, I agree with them. I will reply in segments as my comment is too long.

    First off, let’s stop pissing our pants and look at it this way:

    - Win on Sunday and we’re back on track
    - Beat Belgrade next week and we’re through to the knockout phases

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  • DaveM

    (CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST)

    I ain’t no rose-tinter or AKB bastion; in fact, I’m the first one to call Wenger out of his lab when ‘the experiment’ repeatedly fails. But I also don’t want to look a gift-horse in the mouth. We’ve got an opportunity to walk this league if we get the basics right. Until Saturday afternoon, everything was looking pretty decent. We lost. It sucks. It hurts. But now it’s time to respond.

    Come May, if — big IF — we win something, then I’d much rather be one of the fans saying to myself, “I always had faith, even in the shit times”, than one of the many others eating humble pie and feeling like a cunt for doubting their own team.

    We’re not shit. We’re not going to be sacking our manager. And we’re not going to be buying Superman in January.

    Let’s fucking get over it, get on with it and show why Arsenal supporters are so well-thought of.

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  • DaveM

    (CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST)

    I know for a FACT that a lot of the Arsenal players go online to forums and blogs just like this one to see what real fans think of them. Whilst some of the players deserve to be called cunts, I don’t think reading that is going to motivate them. What might motivate them is if they see that the fans aren’t panicking because we have confidence that we’re Arsenal, and we’re able to turn it around. You get the best out of people by encouraging them, not verbally beating them with the “You’re A Cunt” stick.

    Anyone would think we’re 10 points adrift and out of the CL!

    Whilst I don’t think it’s acceptable for the team to throw away 2-goal leads at home to the Cunts, I also don’t think it’s acceptable for us fans to throw in the towel when we’re less than halfway through the season and still only 2 points off the top.

    Man up, everyone!

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  • DaveM

    p.s. COME ON ARSENAL!!!!

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  • Tristan

    Denilson has NO PACE to track back and defend. That’s why we lost the last two matches. Rewatch them yourself. Is that how a defensive midfielder should play?

    We miss Flamini. We miss Viera. We miss Edu.

    He can’t play as a defensive midfielder. He can’t play as an attacking midfielder. Where else then can he play? He is NOT Arsenal material. Period.

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  • goonerjon

    [quote name=Pedro_afc]FOR FUCK SAKE! SACK WENGER NOW!!![/quote]That’s really clever…if anyone wasa that daft just who would have as his replacement (and don’t say Mourninho and he has zilch class as last night’s sendings off showed)…..Phil Brown? He’s out of work….Allardyce?

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  • Ehibaba

    Hate to say this………………..Arsene Wenger should GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • n19 goon

    the most inspiring blog ive read all week!

    you made some very true points, especially about the fans mental strengh!

    excellent!

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  • n19 goon

    couldnt agree more!

    the same people who moan constantly during a game,are the same people who moan about the atmosphere!

    man up!

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