Tuesday, 22 May 2012

Why Arsenal fans never had it so good

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by MATT TAYLOR Two points from a possible nine simply isn’t good enough. In a sickingly familiar fashion, Arsenal are having to deal with watching the final few weeks of the title race with muted interest. And so predictably, the onslaught upon Arsene Wenger’s philosophies has come thick and fast, with the increasingly riled manager replying in frustration and defiance. Despite his continued conviction in his young team, it appears that sections of the Arsenal crowd are finally beginning to lose faith.

If losing a 98th minute lead wasn’t enough, we preceded to lose a 3-1 lead at the hands of our bitter rivals and then crumble at Bolton, all at a time when we simply had to win. This was the best they could give us it seems. However, it appears that not only do the players lack the winning mentality that every Arsenal fan yearns for, Arsenal fans themselves seem to have forgotten the sensation of winning and indeed, echo this response onto the pitch. It is therefore not surprising when questioning why we are so good away from home, yet so shaky at home when the sea of red and white falls silent as soon as things appear to not be going our way.

Maintaining faith in players such as Eboue, Bendtner, Rosicky, Denilson and Almunia, despite their many diverse critics, only weakens Wenger’s stronghold of the support of the media and fans. There appears to be a gathering momentum behind the witch hunt of Arsene Wenger, previously celebrated the greatest footballing pioneer Arsenal had ever seen. But this unfortunately, is what the ‘Wenger Out’ movement is, an unfounded witch hunt.

Against the lack of funds, high-profile departures and board unrest Wenger has fought, maintaining his astonishing record as Arsenal manager of 14 consecutive qualifications for the Champions League, coming within touching distance of the artificial comfort of success. If we had won the League Cup but had 3 years out of the Champions League, would this really amount to a fair conclusion of success? Would the ‘Wenger Out’ supporters, who maintain that immediate success is much more important than a sustaining future, in fact be calling for our current status as a top 3 team, if we had slipped back into being a ‘good cup side’ as we were when under the management of George Graham?

The importance of winning a trophy is admittedly great, considering our 6 year drought, but is it really success to lift the League Cup and nothing else? The loss to Birmingham in a trophy we had previously christened as the ‘Micky Mouse Cup’ was a massive blow to the Arsenal team, so desperate for success, but we must be wary of adopting the small-time attitude of our friends from down the Seven Sisters Road.

It is apparent that they equate success to one year where they win 6 cup games, but fall horrifically short in the Premier League. This is success of the most irrelevant and insignificant. If we were to sack Wenger tomorrow and all the European giants were managerless, be it Barcelona, Real Madrid or Manchester United, they would be snapping at Wenger’s heels to bring him in and create success out of nothing, which people must realise, is what he has done at Arsenal.

I direct you all to the twitter of ‘thegoonblog’ who raises the point that the Arsenal fans appear to have been divided into two political parties, ‘Wenger Out’ and ‘In Arsene we trust’. It pains me to say, but when examining the different supporters up and down the country, ours appear to be amongst the worst in the league.

Having polarised fans does nothing for the players confidence, especially when in difficult situations as we have found ourselves in at the back end of this season. Though our away supporters are always fantastic, our matches at home are another matter all together. When assessing how we have fallen away so dramatically, Arsenal fans have to look at themselves, before jumping to rash conclusions about the demise of Arsene Wenger.

There are obviously factors outside of our control, i.e the corporate culture embedded into the Emirates Stadium, but there appears to be a negative etiquette within the ground in which you are given quizzical looks if you sing! The foundation of a rousing performance always comes from the terraces as came in our glorious victory over Barcelona. 85% of the time however, there is lacklustre singing, with large periods of near silence.

I look towards games against Sunderland, Blackburn and Liverpool, all draws that when turned into wins, would have seen us within touching distance of Man United. These games required a 12th man to spur the team on that extra yard. This man was non-existent. Whilst Wenger has to accept his mistakes, we also must accept that the fans simply aren’t vocal enough when it matters, partially resulting in us missing out on success.

Exhilarating football, a new stadium, an extremely young, talented team. Why is it then that some Arsenal fans feel that Wenger isn’t good enough? If Arsene Wenger isn’t good enough, who is? I hear Steve McClaren and Sam Allardyce are looking for work?! Almost every player who has worked with Wenger state with the utmost conviction that he is a brilliant manager. Scathing though I am, Arsenal fans, who write on the various forums that we need Darren Bent and an Italian keeper they’ve heard is good from a friend of a friend are quite simply clueless.

It is these fans, who boo at the end of matches and spread the propaganda of ill-feeling towards Wenger that will undermine him, and ultimately force him out. They will also be the ones who reminisce so fondly of the man who created teams who won 2 doubles and an unbeaten league triumph. The man who brought the Emirates Stadium to Arsenal. The man who, for a pennies cost of Fernando Torres, created a team that can, on its day, beat absolutely anybody.

Wenger not good enough? Be rational fellow Gooners, we have never had it so good.

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  • bigsyisback

    All very valid points but is finishing top4 good enough for Arsenal ?
    it is at spurs but is it at Arsenal ?

    so don’t use that as a back up it is really nonsense to be honest, if champ league was how it used to be for winners only you lot would be doing your pieces, and that means us too, finishing 4th is not a good season at any club it is finishing 4th wether you are Barcelona or Carlisle.

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  • John in Norfolk

    Batten down the hatches Matt, you are about to be swamped by a tsunami of posts by Wenger Haters.

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  • meteora

    Wow..
    great article
    after consecutive draws and a defeat, my support for arsenal and arsene was crumbling..
    this is some inspirational one..
    Thanks mate
    However, wenger must change his mentality about not purchasing any during transfer window.

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  • Mattisyahu

    Excellent article. Well written and a point intelligently made.

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  • gooner61

    What? What the hell?? What club do you think we are? Charlton? Chelsea? Doncaster?

    Some blogs are a matter of opinion, and whether one disagrees with the opinion or not, the author is entitled to that opinion. No right minded person would dispute that.

    There are other times, however, when a blog or website simply prints a lie, presumably in a grubby attempt to get responses. And to say that ‘Arsenal have never had it so good’ when we, a club that is ablsolutely steeped in success, have gone 6 years without a trophy is simply one heinous, shameful and insulting lie.

    Let me spell it out – Arsenal is a club that is used to winning things. For the purpose of this paticular argument, it is irrelevant whether you want the manager to stay or not. It is irrelevant whether you are full of hope or doom for the future. Right now, in the present, it is a FACT, I repeat a FACT that we are going through a draught. How dare you sir, how dare you debase our club by saying that this dross is success.

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  • GoonerPaul

    Jesus it’s mad that when anyone on forums talks up against AW in any way we’re lambasted called “spoilt” and “not a fan” well b0llix to that as a season ticket holder I’m entitled to my opinion as much as you are. Matt you can’t look at the performances of the past 2 months and not see a trend the team has no fighters, and no experience I look at our rivals and bog standard players like Park, Fletcher, carrick & Valencia giving everything for the cause of their team busting a gut from start to finish and seeing the game out half of them are scared of AF and loosing their place in the side for not giving 100% it wouldn’t happen with AW they’d get improved contracts and bonuses. AW is not getting 100% out of this team we’ll be promised quality this summer and like last it will not arrive.

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  • Hadley

    Good article, a lot of people just have no sense. If Wenger went half the team would follow, and I mean the good players, not those who the boo boys love to come on these sites and moan about

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  • dbq

    Why do the AKB wenger apologists always trot put the argument that it is better to be in the Champions League than win the League Cup. That is true enough but why are they mutually exclusive ?

    Is it a given that we would have had to trade either the League or FA Cups for not qualifying for the Champions League ?

    Our wage bill is comparable to Man Utd and not much less than Chelsea’s. We should be in the top 4 every year AND be able to win the odd cup or two. Granted we have no divine right to win the league but given the positions we have been in, we should have done better. Time and again, we have choked when the going gets tough and it is directly attributable to Wenger’s policy of signing predominantly young players and eschewing experienced internationals (unless they are cheap which usually means they are over the hill).

    Do not forget, in 2004 we were the best team in the country. In Wenger’s first 5 years, we finished 1st or 2nd every year. Now it’s the top 4. That cannot be held up as progress, not with the resources at his disposal (last year the club made a profit of 50 million quid). And let’s be honest, we don’t have the same resources as Chelsea or Man City but we do have comparable resources to Man Utd and much as I hate to say it, Ferguson does a better job than Wenger in getting the most of what’s available to him.

    The key difference is that he has a team of winners and is tactically flexible. We don’t.

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  • Phoenix Gunner

    Great article, would echo John in Norfolk’s warning…

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  • nicky

    After watching Man Utd last night with their slightly longer passing game than our close (sometimes sideways)method, I think we could learn from this. It seems more direct and immediately threatens the opposing defence.We could do worse.

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  • Nick C

    What you say is true — Sports Illustrated earlier this year published the results of a long study of the basis for what we in America call Home Field Advantage in major sports — the study showed that differences such as pitch size, the fact of being away from one’s home, other different conditions, etc. all lacked statistical significance as reasons why a team plays better at home than away. The only reason that was statistically valid was home support and its influence of the officiating. And in football (yours, not ours) the bias was greatest amongst all major sports. This is true across national boundaries, everywhere.

    So when a large portion of the crowd at the Emirates acts like away support, the impact on results is real.

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  • Mos

    Not too sure about the link between vocal fans and success.
    Highbury was called the library and we won plenty there under Wenger.

    Why suggest Allardyce and McClaren will be the only alternative?
    I’m a Wenger supporter but I think you are trying to paint a worst case scenario.

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  • x

    You have to look at why the fans have started to openly voice criticisms and what has brought this divide to boiling point.

    Two things come to mind which run parallel with one another:
    1 – on pitch performances
    2- ticket prices

    Now if you buy a mac at a couple thousand pounds you expect to sitting down and getting on with work on the best technological equipment on market – and rightfully so, you have paid top ‘dollar’ as it were.

    So Arsenal fans start paying the most for tickets out of any set of fans in the world – and then the club decided to raise this amount further – does not take a genius to realise thats not going to go down to well.

    But say we were winning or some of the money we put into the clubs was being reinvested in a player who we could all instantly recognise as a world beater and run and get his name on the back of our shirts.

    Its just not happening – in fact, the performances have gone down hill – we no longer play mouth watering football and what we do have to show for it is raised ticket prices and lost faith in a group of players we were promised would come good 2-3 years ago.

    Tensions are boiling over, tickets prices are going through the roof and the fans no longer have faith in their players …

    So only one of two things can be done:
    1) significantly reduce ticket prices.
    2) Make the signings that will calm the fans down

    if one of these two things does not happen, expect more protests and sadly to say the bunch of fools in the ‘wenger out’ brigade will only get bigger.

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  • Joe Watley

    Good points about fans in the stadium;

    I’ve been going regularly this season and the last with my red membership and there is definitely something missing with getting the supporters going. It’s like everyone feels insecure about starting up a chant or anything!

    I have to admit, I’m dying to just start giving it, “The wanky Tottenham Hotspur went to Rome to see the Pope… (and you know how the rest goes)”… But I can’t, cause I don’t trust everyone else would join in at the main bit and leave my self esteem shot to pieces…

    I think what it is, is that Arsenal unlike the lesser teams such as Stoke and West Ham, our supporters believe that we are a team that should be winning things!

    Since the move to the Emirates though, we’ve won nothing! So all the old season ticket holders from highbury have got nothing to celebrate with their new pals in this ground; and probably has left most feeling quite deflated and having separate opinions about the team & players…

    I dunno about you all but if that twat behind me is shouting and hollaring about how shit Bendtner is, I’d feel a bit worried about start singing, “Super Nicklas Bendtner” incase I get a fist on the back of the head.

    The point is, Arsenal’s supporters are not all quite in sync with each other, some think we should invest in youth, some think we need to spend, some say sack wenger, some say in Arsene we Trust… I think for that reason, it was so important to win the Carling Cup final just to prove to the supporters that this team CAN win something and give that belief back any of the doubters.

    I’m sure the die harders in the crowd who do start singing whether people join in or not will do their part… But until Arsenal win ANYTHING of relevance and get this “6 years without a trophy” monkey off their back; we wont be seeing the emirates as the 12th man anytime soon!

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  • gooner61

    Here is the central flaw in the ‘Aresnal would collapse if Wenger left’ nonsense. It is usually Wengers supporters who trot this out and in the next breath the tell us what a great position Wenger has put the club in.

    But surely if Wenger has done such a great job, and given us this bright future, then every manager and player would want to play for us. Unless Arsene hasnt done a great job after all!!

    Arsenal is a huge club. It was before Wenger, it was under Wenger and it will be in the future. Anyone who thinks otherwise really hasnt got a clue about this club and what it really means.

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  • John in Norfolk

    Realistically who else.

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  • SuperRob7

    Just because we’ve been better than spurs over the past few years doesn’t mean we’re good enough. We have set different standards by which to measure our success.

    Just because we finish in the top 4 in what is usually an uncompetitive fight for 4th place, it doesn’t mean we’re good enough.

    Just because other european clubs want apparently want wenger (according to the always accurate newspapers – not) it doesn’t mean he’s the right man for us. And don’t be so delibrately naive. Of course there are managers who are worse than wenger but at least aknowledge that there are also some better managers. Arsenal was successful before Wenger and will be successful after wenger. He isn’t the only man in the world who can bring success.

    “Exhilarating football, a new stadium, an extremely young, talented team” you say?
    Exhilarating football?? Have you been watching the lazy and poor performances recently? When we’re at our best its good to watch but how can we play at our best when the players have no motivation and play every game as though its a training game?

    Under wenger it seems we will always have a young talented team but whats good about having a young team if they don’t perform? And don’t tell me that the players are cheaper because we have decided to pay them ridiculous salaries. The point of Wengers project was that we would develop our own players into the finished article rather than buying it but whats the good in that if we sell the players before they reach their peak.

    So we have a new stadium which is nice to look at, it brings in lots of money and its very comfortable but its dead inside and you have basically blamed the people in it for the team not bothering this season.

    Look at the players we have. Season after season we get several players in the team of the year and yet we haven’t once been able to convert the talent in the team into a winning side. Compare our team, player for player with man utd who could do the double this year and how many players of theirs would get into our team? Van der sar, vidic, maybe evra. Not many (if any) more. See how much a manger who knows how to motivate his players can do for an average set of players.

    I’m not a wenger hater as JIN puts it and of course i will remember the times when we were the best team in the land but the wenger of today is not the same manager as the one of the past, whether its intentional or not. He probably started this youth project because of a lack of funds but according to him he now has money available so if success is the main goal then why not go back to the way he run the club pre 2004.

    sorry for the long rant…

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  • SuperRob7

    hiddink, van basten, guardiola, rijkaard, laurent blanc, louis van gaal, klinsman. Obviously these are just some big names and maybe none would want the job but there are managers out there who have proven track records (though some of these haven’t been great recently).

    Anyway who had heard of Arsene Wenger when he arrived? I’m sure the board would be able to find somebody who can do the job. Perhaps somebody like claude pouel, unai emery or manuel pelligrini who always produced good teams with a limited budget at villarreal. I don’t know. But my point is that there are plenty of talented managers.

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  • Sal Paradise

    I believe a lot of the problem with poor support at The Emirates is our lovely big seats. Packing us in tighter on smaller seats would forge togetherness and improve the atmosphere. The increase in capacity could perhaps help keep ticket prices down.
    It may sound stupid and simplistic, but i really think there is something to it. Just look at how they are packed in at old trafford and the atmosphere they generate there.

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  • Insidersnatch

    Wenger has brainwashed a lot of our fans into thinking he is the only manager for this great club of ours..
    While a lot us are slowly waking up to the fact that his actualy not that good anymore and his psycological mind control over us is fading fading fading.

    Bottom line= Wenger Out

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  • yozza

    the players will leave because of AW not the other way round….Fabregas is already nailed on this summer then RvP N Nasri will be questioning why!

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  • Alan1029

    Hyprocritical moronic statement. You criticise Spurs supporters for having low standards yet you settle for being in top 4?

    It’s the lack of ambition that pains supporters. You clearly are not a season ticket holder or you wouldn’t be so content with paying sky high prices to watch bargain basement prices. All the while, the club announce record profits.

    Please, Please Please support tottenham as clearly their level would make you a very happy man. You pompous git.

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  • Fiz

    Stop living in the past like Wenger, mate.

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  • Alan1029

    I am also tired of people making excuses that because we have a new stadium, we can’t spend. The middle tier alone covers the debt re-payments.

    You look at spurs and if we are being honest, we all wonder how they manage to spend so much money every transfer window and still declare profits. All the while, they’ve had no success on the pitch.

    The fact is that their chairman displays ambition and their managers are encouraged to spend. We on the other hand are retaining a manager simply because he is an accountant first and a football man second.

    It’s appalling that some fans are content with this level of ambition. We must demand more otherwise we’ll suffer 20 years of this. I also guarantee that the loyal fans will continue to disappear for more and more fair weather attendees who are merely looking to catch a show on the weekend.

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  • Fiz

    2 points out of 9 games, you would have thought this is a bottom-table club fighting relegation!! Yet people think Wenger is irreplaceable … and that despite after 6 years without a single trophy. Was monaco a top club under his charge?

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  • allgravy9

    How on earth have we shown a lack of ambition?

    Bargain basement prices for a month mate. Get a grip. I’m sure you were somebody saying we would win a quadruple not so long ago! Most of the season we have played brilliant football. We’ve played badly for a month and everyone gets up on their high horse about it. WERE SHIT. Get real. You support one of the best teams in the league.

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  • Damian in LA

    You know, the Germans thought they never had it so good, unil Hitler led them to destruction. Same with mussolini and the Italians. Kenneth Lay was the greatest CEO of Enron they couldn’t imagine life without him–until he destroyed the company. Too historical for you? How about Benitez, he was a god for a while also, then years of decline, until everyone woke up at Anfield. AW is no different. Lets juat avoid the final destruction, ok?

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  • GunnerFromIndia
  • Omar Almasri

    Good article, but I do believe that Wenger needs to tweak his philosophy…. the last performances haven’t been good, I think it’s because of the mentality instilled at the club, the players are so used to not winning trophies which has caused lack of motivation.

    This summer will be interesting.

    Cheers and take care everyone,

    Omar
    Blog: http://www.o-posts.net
    Twitter: @alwayzagunner14

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  • John in Norfolk

    Matt,

    I warned you!

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  • Angelo1971

    Retards.

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  • SuperRob7

    [quote name=Damian in LA]You know, the Germans thought they never had it so good, unil Hitler led them to destruction. Same with mussolini and the Italians. Kenneth Lay was the greatest [/quote]The germans had never had it so good? Oh you mean the millions of dead from the great war, the crippling economic sanctions of the allies, the inability of people to feed their children and the complete destruction of national pride. Sounds good to me…

    And if your talking about after he was elected then of course ordinary germans were happy about their children being indocrinated and told to inform the secret police if their parents said anything against hitler. And obviously they loved the fact that german citizens who weren’t aryan had no human rights and I bet they loved living in fear of the all powerful dictatorial police.

    Apart from this stupidity you have contradicted yourself a few times and I can’t actually work out if you think Wenger should stay or go from these examples.

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  • Angelo1971

    Wenger is past his best. He’s not able to motivate the team, not able to sign players with winning mentality, gambling at low odds, hasn’t got a clue about tactics and defense and collects rubbish players like Denilson. This article is a crap with half-true statements. Wenger change or go!!! I said I wait until the end of season to judge him. We won’t win so I do so. Wenger you failed. Last year I still blamed the team, now it’s Wenger’s turn. You lost my sympathy and I won’t cry if you go. I do blame the crap you have built. Why? If your players were dying in the pitch to fight I would not say a word, but it’s not happening. By the way when I was in the stadium I was not silent, so don’t lie and glorify the AKB brigade.

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  • SuperRob7

    we are one of the best teams in the league but as a club we have the potential to be one of the top 2 or 3 clubs in europe and be the best team in england not just one of.

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  • Angelo1971

    “If one of these two things does not happen, expect more protests and sadly to say the bunch of fools in the ‘wenger out’ brigade will only get bigger.” Bunch of fools? Most of the supporters I spoke with were either actively wanting Wenger out, or would be (passively) relieved, if he went. So it’s not a bunch of people, but a lot. If you want to call somebody a fool you can start it with yourself. Wenger is not Arsenal FC, if he refuses to finish his job on the brink of success he will remain a failure. If he does not change (very unlikely to change a lot) we will have a bunch (new) Denilsons and the likes of Fabregas, RvP and Nasri will leave. Is that what you want you fools? The collapsing nazi Germany had the same blind faith and resulted in disaster. Low ticket and merchandise sales will follow if there’s no change. This will affect the new sponsorship deal and a domino effect will take place. And tell me how you imagine it? Let’s say he buys a few players, losing some of our best (he lost some of the best players’ respect). Do you think the lack of tactics will help even with better players?

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  • Monktash

    [quote name=Joe Watley]Good points about fans in the stadium;

    starting up a chant or anything!

    I have to admit, I’m dying to just start giving it, “The wanky Tottenham Hotspur went to Rome to see the Pope… (and you know how the rest goes)”… But I can’t, cause I don’t trust everyone else would join in at the main bit and leave my self esteem shot to pieces…

    I dunno about you all but if that twat behind me is shouting and hollaring about how shit Bendtner is, I’d feel a bit worried about start singing, “Super Nicklas Bendtner” incase I get a fist on the back of the head.
    [/quote]
    I wouldn’t worry about your esteem mate because you’d be out on your ear. Someone would complain, she normally wears a pink hat, and the stewards (with the help of plod if needed) will eject you.

    One of WHOAGS suggestions is to have a section of unreserved seating where like-minded fans can congregate and generate a traditional atmosphere.

    But as this type of fan, ie me and you, are not really welcome any more nothing will change.

    What’s that protest march about…..?

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  • Monktash

    Never had it so good.

    Depends how you look at it. In the past as a team and a club we always performed to our maximum potential. Now we don’t.

    It didn’t mean we always won but no one moaned about it.

    We had the money to fix the weak points in the team, but AW continued with his belief in his project.

    Most of the fans I know, who you would probably label as Wenger Out Brigate, don’t want him to leave. They and I just want him to have a more balanced attitude to team building because we need experience and winners.

    The board have been far too happy to sit back and watch their shares increase in value rather than putting pressure on Wenger.

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  • Hamy

    Are you serious? Are you trying to convince us not to protest? Is this your way of doing so? The Arsene Wenger/Gaddafi way? I’m sorry man but your point of view will not change our minds..Instead of actually posting nothing but the good old fashioned “Keep Arsene” articles why don’t you actually write a balance debate about it? Just because you write about us not going on protest doesn’t mean that we are actually NOT gonna do it..If it’s up to me and I’m down there I’d be fighting just to be the first one in line on the protest..this is unfair to the fans who are paying money to see loyal players only to see money hungry bitches who will sell us out the minute another big club comes knocking…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…either Arsene Wenger leaves..or well…nearly 90% of the players leave..because quiet frankly when you think about it..Fabregas, Nasri, RVP and Song are the only ones who seem to care..and I wouldn’t be surprised if 2 of them if not all decide to leave..

    Either Arsene leaves….or the fake ass players who are tarnishing this club…in any case there will and MUST be a protest so that EVERYONE can hear our voices..The media are not anti-arsenal..they are just trying to sell stories..they were anti-newcastle before going down and anti portsmouth and make fun of them..they are not anti Arsenal..they are just selling stories..no more no less..

    PROTEST! PROTEST!! CHANGE IS AND MUST COME!!!!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

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  • Bayonne Jean

    Matt, where’s the “exhilirating” football? It’s been sorely lacking since the Barca first leg, and that’s why we’re getting the tsunami of anti- Wenger sentiment. And you can debate the chicken or the egg matter of whether the fans need to step up to push the side through, or the players need to step up to get the fans to engage, but the cold hard fact is that the current brand of Arsenal football is anything but exhilirating, and THERE SEEMS TO BE NO EFFORT TO REMEDY THAT. And that surely has to fall to some extent at the manager’s feet.

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  • Roachy

    Lean years at the Arsenal were predictable given our long term strategy…”To be the most successful professional football club in the world” This doesn’t happen, it takes many years, and the first step was to move to a world class stadium. By successful I mean both on and off the field and this really does take many years!!

    Firstly, we didn’t sell our soul to Oligarchs and Sheikhs who have distorted the competition to raise their own profile rather than their love for the club they own.
    Second we moved to a state of the art stadium for a cool 1/2 billion pounds incurring a Big Debt and now its almost paid off!
    Next point is that during this financially difficult time we managed to qualify for CL every year!! No easy feat!!
    Despite all this we came within a bees whisker of actually winning the EPL, FA and CL, and all this without the same help from officials as say ManU always seem to get!
    Lets not forget that the world has for the past couple of years experienced an unprecidented Global Financial Crisis!!!
    Roman has invested mulit millions over the same period to build a second string side could beat most professional teams and hasn’t won the all the trophies!

    We may have an empty trophy cabinet lately but the Arsenal are one of the few teams in the world that has managed to be highly competitive in all competitions in across Europe without buying expensive talent, (eg: Torres, Carroll, Ronaldo, Dzeko, etc etc) We have managed this by staying financially healthy and perhaps thats why scribes across the world love to ridicule us when we just miss out on winning trophies.

    Which other manager in the world could of achieved this? Mourinho? SAF? Harry Redknap??? Arsenal are on track to achieving their vision, make no mistake about that!!

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  • Matt Taylor

    I am in no way saying don’t protest, you’d just be being really foolish in doing so. ‘Either Wenger leaves.. or well…’ Nasri, Fabregas etc are there because of Wenger. Arsenal fans are fickle. This is a widely acknowledged fact. One minute we’re saying we’re going to win the Quadruple, the next were talking about protesting. It’s absolute lunacy.

    Enough is enough? What are you on about? There is only one trophy that we definitely should have won. The champions league we went down to ten men and lost to the best team in the world. F.A Cup we lost to Man United, which is hardly embarrassing. Premier League we didn’t manage to turn draws into wins. Things go against you, that’s football unfortunately.

    Is it Wenger’s fault that Koscielny misses the ball and Martins scores to lose us the Carling Cup? No. The players are good enough, so do me a favour. Protesting is the last thing the club needs.

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  • TJ14

    What a load of sh*t. if you don’t like the ticket prices, don’t pay it. I have been to pretty much every away ground in the past 2 years, to Blackburn, Everton, Liverpool, United, Newcastle, Birmingham, Wolves, etc. Other than United and Blackpool, every team we play is boring to watch, play sh*t football and will celebrate a 0-0 draw against us. AT HOME!!

    You listen to any journalist, any reasonable fan and they will tell you Arsenal are the biggest draw for watching football. Listen to the commentators when we are on TV at an away game and how many times you hear ‘XXX have their biggest crowd of the season today’. It is because they want to see us play football.

    Yes we have had a bad run of late, but we have been spoilt over the years with the football we have seen at the Emirates and Highbury. We are having a lull at the moment, but it will come back.

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  • TJ14

    Hamy, Only read your last line and have come to this mind boggling conclusion……

    You are an absolute twat…..

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  • SuperRob7

    I don’t know which other manager could have but Bayern munich opened thier new 66,000 seater stadium in 2005 (although they do share it with a second division team), they have the lowest ticket prices of all the champions league teams (if I remember rightly it was about 20 euros for the champions league semi final home leg last season) and they have managed to recover much quicker than us. Champions league final last year and since the stadium has been built they’ve won the league 3 times and the fa cup equivalent 3 times. Ok the league isn’t as strong but how come they have managed to invest so much in the team and keep ticket prices so low and arsenal haven’t?

    I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just wondering if the financial way that arsenal have operated since the new stadium has been as necessary as we have been told it was.

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